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Hello, whoat kind of electricity plug is used on Dominica. Is this the American plug? Thank you regards: Kees Neve — | Kees Neve | Weather site: | www.euronet.nl/users/kneve
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Yes, adfars i know the resort we stayed at had all american plugs. you should call first
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>whoat kind of electricity plug is used on Dominica.
This is a good source for questions like that: http://kropla.com/electric2.htm Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
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So now we’re traveling to Dominica (and not St. Thomas) in early June. Any suggestions of where to stay, eat, etc.? Any good vegetarian-friendly restaurants? Lastly, I know that you can easily island-hop to Martinique and Guadalupe. Any other convenient options? Thanks! — Rubies Rubies’s Profile: 224 View this thread: 74341
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>So now we’re traveling to Dominica (and not St. Thomas) in early June. >Any suggestions of where to stay,
What do you want to spend? The island has a full price range. Do you want to be in the rain forest or in town? > eat, etc.?
That is something I don’t worry about until I get to the island. Then you can discuss this with locals and other travelers where you are staying. And of course where you are staying has some bearing on this. > Any good >vegetarian-friendly restaurants?
Ha! >Lastly, I know that you can easily >island-hop to Martinique and Guadalupe. Any other convenient options?
I wouldn’t exactly call it easy to island-hop to Martinique and Guadalupe. It is a time consuming rough ferry ride. Though if you can get a flight from Canefield Airport an island-hop could be easy. Don <donwiss at panix.com>.
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>So now we’re traveling to Dominica (and not St. Thomas) in early June. >Any suggestions of where to stay, eat, etc.? Any good >vegetarian-friendly restaurants? Lastly, I know that you can easily >island-hop to Martinique and Guadalupe. Any other convenient options? >Thanks!
In Roseau, try the Evergreen just south in Castle Comfort. Within easy driving distance of Champagne, Scott’s Head, Layou River, Morne Trois Pitons, Emerald Pool, etc. In Portsmouth, try Picard Beach Cottages. Take a trip up the Indian River and visit the fort. Dominica is beautiful.
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Rubies schrieb: > So now we’re traveling to Dominica (and not St. Thomas) in early June. > Any suggestions of where to stay, eat, etc.? Any good > vegetarian-friendly restaurants? Lastly, I know that you can easily > island-hop to Martinique and Guadalupe. Any other convenient options? > Thanks! > Rubies
If you like hiking stay in Laudat (Roxy’s Mountain Lodge): Tour to Boiling Lake Middleham Falls Titou Gorge Freshwater Lake Boeri Lake Not too far from here: Wotten Waven Trafalgar Falls I have not seen any other tourist at the northern tip of the island. If you like normal places without any touristic aspects: Stay in Portsmouth, visit from here places like Capucin or hidden villages on the northern peninsula, which are not mentioned on the map. Regards, Achim — Photos: Dominica: http://www.alewand.de/fotos/dominica/index.html Boiling Lake: http://www.alewand.de/fotos/boiling/index.html Guadeloupe: http://www.alewand.de/fotos/guadeloupe/index.html
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>>So now we’re traveling to Dominica (and not St. Thomas) in early June. >Any suggestions of where to stay, … > Any good vegetarian-friendly restaurants? >Ha!
Actually there were a couple of veggie restaurants in Roseau when we were there, though that’s a few years ago now. They were a few streets back from the waterfront, one nearer the hotel in the fort on the s/w corner of town, and one in a characterful upstairs of a bldg in town. [As I said before, the one nearer the fort-hotel didn't heat their food enough...I suppose the person did ask "good"] — Ken Tough
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If you’re planning to stay in Dominica for a while, a good place to check out is Papillote. It’s a small resot,r up in the rain forest mountains, about four miles from Roseau. The food is great, you can do the tours from there, and they have wonderful gardens and a hot mineral pool which, complete with island rum punch, provides a cushy end-of-day exp[erience. Happy trip! Stephanie C.
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My fiancee and I are looking into taking part of our honeymoon in April 1996 in Dominica. We want a combination of serene surroundings, snorkeling, hiking, nice beaches, good food and NOT tourist-like! Let me know if anyone has any info! - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text ->If you're planning to stay in Dominica for a while, a good place to check >out is Papillote. It's a small resot,r up in the rain forest mountains, >about four miles from Roseau. The food is great, you can do the tours >from there, and they have wonderful gardens and a hot mineral pool which, >complete with island rum punch, provides a cushy end-of-day exp[erience. >Happy trip! >Stephanie C.
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>My fiancee and I are looking into taking part of our honeymoon in April >1996 in Dominica. We want a combination of serene surroundings, >snorkeling, hiking, nice beaches, good food and NOT tourist-like! Let >me know if anyone has any info! We have read alittle on Dominica and
Martinique. They seem to match what we are looking for. Any ideas? Recommendations? Other islands? Thanks in advance!!!!
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I'm on a cruise next week that stops in St. Kitts, Barbados (Bridgetown), Dominica, Tortola, and Nassau. I'd like to hear some steel drums and other sexy loud music. Anybody got any suggestions? Thanks.
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We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
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I was in Dominica for a week, the last week in February. I enjoyed it very much. I don't know anything about Sea Cliff Cottages, I stayed at Castle Comfort Lodge because I was diving. I did go on a couple of hikes. One to Trafalgar Falls and one to Boiling Lake. Trafalgar Falls is a very easy hike and is fun. Boiling Lake is a strenuous all day hike. I thought it was worth the trip, but be prepared to be very tired when you finish. I also went on a whale watching trip in two of the afternoons. The first time we saw nothing. They gave me a discount if I wanted to go again. The next trip was incredible. We saw a mother and her calf and got within 30 feet of them. We also saw a 50 foot male breach 5 times. I used KHATTs for the hikes. Coy
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>We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? >We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any >help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
Dominica is one of the most beautiful islands in the Caribbean. Don't expect a lot of glitz though. It is pretty "basic". Not many beaches either. What they do have is virgin rain forest, boiling lakes, hot and cold twin waterfalls and great people. I don't know anything about Sea Cliff Cottages. Hope this helps. Steve
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There is a really great web site that you MUST check out first: http://caribbeansupersite.com/dominica/beaches.htm Hope this helps - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - > We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? > We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any > help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
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Cindy, We went there in Mar 97. We stayed near the south end of the island in Soufriere. We went there primarily to dive but did several other activities as well. Highlights: Boiling Lake hike (strenuous but fun, after the hike, swim up Titou Gorge to the waterfall) Trafalgar Falls (easy hike but very pretty) Mountain Biking Diving was very good - not lots of large fish but very healthy reefs One group (not us 
saw a whale shark during their diving. If you are into diving and want to get away from the "crowds", I would recommend Nature Island Dive in Soufriere. We did some bike trips, hiking and sea kayaking through them. Their web address is http://www.natureislanddive.dm/. We were the first ones in the lower level of the cottage that is pictured on their home page (with the kayaker in front). Obviously, they have closed in the lower level. In fact, we think (but we're not sure) that we are the one's pictured on this link http://www.natureislanddive.dm/accomodation.html. I was going to recommend Petit Coulibri Cottages for a romantic getaway (we rode our bikes up there, it is unbelievably beautiful). Unfortunately, I just checked their web page http://www.delphis.dm/petit.htm and they are closed until Feb 2000. Don't expect white sand beaches (at least not where we went). It's a young volcanic island so all the "beach sand" is rocks about the size of your fist. I heard rumors of a sand beach north of Roseau (the main town) but we never went. (I'm teasing but white sand beaches are not the draw). There also isn't a whole lot of flat area anywhere on the island (makes it kind of tough to build an airport). We were eating at the Seabird Cafe (right across from the cottage) and some long-term residents stopped in for a meal. We started talking to them and the wife said she liked to come to this part of Dominica because the road is level for several miles (I think they were originally from India). I would recommend Ken's Hinterland Tours http://www.khatts.dm/ for arranging trips to mountainous destinations. Driving a car on the mountain roads can best be described as terrifying (at least to a flatlander like myself). You drive on the left and almost every turn is blind so the locals honk their horn as they go around the turn. They are associated with Dive Dominica in Roseau (which comes highly recommended by a friend of mine). Their URL is http://www.divedominica.com/webpages/divefr.htm The locals are very engaging. I enjoyed walking down to Scott's Head (south end of the island) each evening for dinner and just hanging out with the locals. There was usually a street game of Dominoes going on (which got pretty vocal). I had a great time. I can't wait to go back but this years vacation dollars are already committed to Oz. Erik Turner Melbourne, FL Remove spamless to email - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - >We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? >We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any >help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
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Dominica is an extraordinary island. One of the primary tourist activities is hiking. Actually, it does not offer hiking so much as it offers HIKING. We took what was touted by some books as a "pleasant rainforest walk" to Middleham Falls. We are in reasonably good shape (for fifty-somethings) but the 4 hours up and down ravines over slippery railway ties was, shall we say, challenging. At the end was both a gorgeous waterfall and the prospect of 4 hours BACK over the same ravines. If you like that (and I'll bet that all real hikers would), Dominica will offer you all that you want in the way of hiking. We were glad that we had done it even though it damn near killed us. Dominica is unique among the islands in having huge mountains and rushing rivers. It also has lovely people. Part of our trip we stayed on the coast a few miles from the main town. It was a delight to ride the vans that served as buses between our hotel and the town. The people were always friendly and we felt that we were visitors rather than tourists. The Saturday food market was one of the best that we have seen in the Caribbean. And the mangoes were absolutely the best. As I said, we stayed about 4 days on the coast. Our small hotel (the Evergreen) was lovely, but there was not a sand beach. Rather there was a beach made of stones. We are avid snorkelers. The snorkeling off the stone beach was enough to amuse us for a half hour or so on a couple of afternoons. The food in Dominica was what you should be able to get in the Caribbean but rarely do - many locally grown fruits and vegetables. It was not fancy, but it was real, and it was good. On most other islands, you are more likely to get food from Miami. Our non-coast locale was Papillotte which bills itself as a rainforest retreat. If you go there, ask for the "cabin". We found three or four days there and about the same at Evergreen to be a good combination. Costs for both food and lodging were moderate throughout Dominica. Papillote was an extraordinary place to stay. Our room was in a separate small building away from the main lodge. You reached it by wandering through a lushly planted area and past a creek and waterfall - that's right, a beautiful little 30 foot or so waterfall. The room was not at all fancy, but the feeling of being a part of the rainforest was something that I think anyone would enjoy for at least a few days and perhaps for much longer. The gorgeous Trafalgar waterfalls are a very easy 20 minute walk from the hotel. The food at the hotel was very good, and there is also a good, small restaurant a few hundred yards down the road. Our hotel on the coast was the Evergreen. It is a small hotel with very attractively decorated rooms and a very good restaurant. It has a small pool if you prefer that to the rock "beach" that I mentioned above. The location was good. The "busses" run frequently and cost only $1 to get to town. You can also take the bus the other direction to Soufriere where there is a good dive operation. There is also a very well thought of dive operator right next door to the Evergreen. We chose the one at Soufriere because it was closer to the area where we had heard there was good snorkeling. The snorkeling was OK (not great), but the whole experience of being in the very quiet town of Soufriere, drinking a fresh coconut that we bought from a man who had just cut it from a palm on the beach, and being with the very friendly dive shop folks made for a very enjoyable day. We spent another day on an excursion to Portsmouth, the town on the northwest coast. The bus ride there took about 1 hour from Roseau (the main town) and cost only $7 - a great bargain. The ride was beautiful as we went along the coast. At one stop some kids came running over to sell bunches of kinips, a small green fruit, tart but delicious. The main attraction in Porstmouth is a rowboat ride up the Indian River. This is about the most touristy thing that you can do on Dominica, and even it is in tune with nature. Just make sure you get a boat that does not use a motor. Just a note about the other most touristy thing: Our greatest disappointment was visiting the famous Emerald Pool when a tour group was there. We were on an around-the-island excursion with a woman from Ken's Hinterland Tours, but we got to the Emerald Pool at the same time as a group from one of the few cruise ships that stops at Dominica. I could see how the pool could be a wonderful place to be if you were there alone, but seeing it as part of a large group was far worse than not having seen it at all - kind of like getting to the Sistine Chapel on the day of a rock concert. > We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? > We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any > help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
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Cindy, We were there about four years ago and we are returning there this winter. Our first trip we stayed at Papillote so we could see the rain forest...and we made daily forays from there. Tried the Boiling Lake hike (the younger daughter and I stopped at the halfway mark, my husband and older daughter made it to the very last leg - according to our guide another 15 minutes down - but felt they couldn't make it all the way back without exhaustion setting in! It was all a question of timing and we began too late in the day), looked at sulfur springs, drove to the fort and the Carib reserve, took in the trail at Syndicate and the botanical gardens and museum. This time we are staying at the Evergreen since the kids took up diving. It is the friendliest island, very beautiful but not glitzy or built up at all. If you enjoy nature, it is the place to visit! Melanie - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - >We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? >We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any >help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
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We, a family of three, were at Sea Cliff Cottages in April for over two weeks. It is among the nicest places we have ever been to, and we have much to compare it with. Some qualifications tho. There is no perfect place on this planet. Dominica is poor and if you cannot handle some elements of the third world, don't go there. In particular, we have met some US Americans who hated Dominica since it is undeveloped and has few of the creature comforts that resort islands usually offer. Also, we have met some Americans who liked Dominica but felt lonely because most people on Dominica are either locals, Canadians or Europeans. All the best, Martin - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - > We are thinking of going to the island of Dominica. Has anybody been there? > We are interested in the Sea Cliff Cottages. It all sounds beautiful. Any > help on must see and do wouhelp very much. Thanks Cindy
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Dumb question: Where in the carribean is Dominica? Not on my map...
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Between Guadaloupe & Martinique. No problem mon. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - > Dumb question: Where in the carribean is Dominica? > Not on my map...
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> Dumb question: Where in the carribean is Dominica? > Not on my map...
In the eastern part of the Caribbean between Guadeloupe, which is to the north, and Martinique, which is to the south. Regarding pronounciation, the locals say "dom in ee ka." Hope this helps. Ernie Carnicelli
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> Dumb question: Where in the carribean is Dominica? > Not on my map...
You can see Dominica in relation to the other islands on this page... http://www.caribguide.com/articles/rightislandforyou.html Hope this helps! Kent CaribGuide ~ 5104 Saddleridge Cove ~ Austin, Texas 78759 Office: 512.342.0170 ~ Mobile: 512.626.3914 ~ Fax: 512.342.0890
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My family and I are going to be joining a family reunion aboard Carnival's 'Fascination'. I have noticed that one of the stops is the island of Dominica. I am not very familiar with this island. Can anyone direct to websites/books that would give me some detailed tourist information. Thanks, Tre'
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The official web site of Dominica is http://www.dominica.dm. I took the same cruise and was so taken with the island that I went back for a week this spring. Bill Barner - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - > My family and I are going to be joining a family reunion aboard Carnival's > 'Fascination'. I have noticed that one of the stops is the island of > Dominica. I am not very familiar with this island. Can anyone direct to > websites/books that would give me some detailed tourist information. > Thanks, > Tre'
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Dominica is one of the most beautiful islands of the Caribbean. I doubt that your cruise will allow you the time to enjoy its beauty. If nothing else go to Trafalger Falls, take hiking shoes and swim wear. steve - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text ->My family and I are going to be joining a family reunion aboard Carnival's >'Fascination'. I have noticed that one of the stops is the island of >Dominica. I am not very familiar with this island. Can anyone direct to >websites/books that would give me some detailed tourist information. >Thanks, >Tre'
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If you can take only one day trip, I would suggest Titou Gorge (almost cave swimming) or Emerald Pool (sometimes very congested with turista, but beautiful nonetheless). - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - >Dominica is one of the most beautiful islands of the Caribbean. I >doubt that your cruise will allow you the time to enjoy its beauty. >If nothing else go to Trafalger Falls, take hiking shoes and swim >wear. >steve >My family and I are going to be joining a family reunion aboard Carnival's >'Fascination'. I have noticed that one of the stops is the island of >Dominica. I am not very familiar with this island. Can anyone direct to >websites/books that would give me some detailed tourist information. >Thanks, >Tre'
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>My family and I are going to be joining a family reunion aboard Carnival's >'Fascination'. I have noticed that one of the stops is the island of >Dominica. I am not very familiar with this island. Can anyone direct to >websites/books that would give me some detailed tourist information. >Thanks, >Tre'
If you are coming off the ship, you will see a few trinkets at the pier and you will have enough time to see one or maybe two natural things like the Emerald Pool. Don't try to bargain with the cabbies. The rates are set by the government. If you dock at Roseau (pronounced Rose-OH), try to see Trafalgar Falls and visit the Ft. Young Hotel for the dance show and lunch. The hotel is to the right of the pier and easy to see. If you get stuck at Portsmouth there are a few old forts to see and not much else other than maybe a trip up the Layou River in a canoe. DO NOT go wandering without a guide/driver in the Portsmouth area. There are some legitimate guides for the river tour, but check it out on the Dominica website first. It is a pretty country. David Ladewig www.cometravelwithme.com
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>My family and I are going to be joining a family reunion aboard Carnival’s >’Fascination’. I have noticed that one of the stops is the island of >Dominica. I am not very familiar with this island. Can anyone direct to >websites/books that would give me some detailed tourist information.
The "Footprint Handbooks" guide has good info on Dominica, also see www.footprint-handbooks.co.uk. As someone mentioned, a cruise stop won’t give you much time. It’s bigger & more mountainous than you might imagine, so you’ll probably have to choose one sight/location to visit. I don’t know that ship, but some cruises also dock in the north, near Portsmouth (is it?) If that’s the case, a rowed boat trip up the Indian River is beautiful. In Roseau, a quick trip to Trafalgar Falls or the Emerald Pool will be memorable. cheers — Ken Tough Montserrat
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Anyone been to Dominica?
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We were there several years ago. It is mostly rain forest and beautiful beyond belief. Watch your wallet, however. There is a problem with petty theft. AMG – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Anyone been to Dominica?
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Dominica is lovely- very mountainous green island, and the capital Roseau is actually better than most in the Caribbean, at least near the waterfront. Our cruise director said they’d some problems with petty theft and questionable pricing on cabs, so we took organized tours only- however some others on our ship hired cabs on their own and reported no difficulty. We saw Emerald Pool and Trafalgar Falls- I thought both were nice but really enjoyed just driving through the mountain scenery. If you’re going for a longer period, I hear the northern area is really lovely. Sorry, no personal information on where to stay or eat. I have posted a few pictures of Dominica on my home page at http://home.neo.lrun.com/jechase/ There are also lovely pictures and quite a bit of detail at Dominica Online at http://www.delphis.dm/home.html
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Dominica is an ecotourism island. The interior is just beyond words. Imagine swimming under a waterfall or in a river. If you are on the sea, you will have some black sand beaches. The water is crystal clear and the snorkeling superb. Try whale watching, thats a treat. There are many hotels on this lovely island. It all depends on what you are looking for.
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My wife and I are considering a ‘nature oriented’ trip to Dominica this fall. We are much more likely to enjoy a good hike than a day lying on the beach. Does anyone have any insight or info to share about a vacation there, especially places to stay and people or companies to deal with. Also how good is the hiking/ how accessable are the trails, and how about guides? Thanks for any info. Darryl
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Here are the best five hikes in Dominica:Emerald Pool,Trafalgar Falls, Titou Gorge, Freshwater lake, boiling lake and sulphur springs would also be a good experience, all in Dominica.Serge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My wife and I are considering a ‘nature oriented’ trip to Dominica this > fall. We are much more likely to enjoy a good hike than a day lying on > the beach. Does anyone have any insight or info to share about a > vacation there, especially places to stay and people or companies to > deal with. Also how good is the hiking/ how accessable are the trails, > and how about guides? Thanks for any info. > Darryl
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> Here are the best five hikes in Dominica:Emerald Pool,Trafalgar Falls, > Titou Gorge, Freshwater lake, boiling lake and sulphur springs would > also be a good experience, all in Dominica.Serge
For serious hikers, Emerald Pool, Trafalgar falls and sulphur springs could hardly be called hikes, and they also bear the brunt of the cruise ship tourism. If going to freshwater Lake, don’t miss out on teh Boeri Lake trail, along which you can get some great views and experience real montane forest: it can be muddy/slippery/wet. The boiling lake is also worth doing and the trail is well marked. Ditto as Boeri Lake but much longer: the valley of desolation and the lake itself are worth seeing. The most difficult and challenging hike on the island is defnitely Morne Diablotin, a 3000 foot climb through rainforest through cloud forest into elfin woodland, with chances of seeing rare parrots and hummingbirds and stunning views. Not in my opinion worth doing unless you have some chance of seeing something at the top! The first bit is incredibly steep and then by the end the canopy is so lwo that you have to scramble under, through and over it. A total body workout that will test your fitness! But a truly memorable, amazing experience. All these tracks are well marked enough to be followed without a guide, although officailly a guide is strongly recommended for the latter two. They can be expensive e.g. I was quoted 120 USD for the latter. A good company is Kens Hinterland adventure tours (although I’ve never used the services of a tour company myself). I hope you enjoy it, its a wonderful place. Anita Malhotra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My wife and I are considering a ‘nature oriented’ trip to Dominica this > fall. We are much more likely to enjoy a good hike than a day lying on > the beach. Does anyone have any insight or info to share about a > vacation there, especially places to stay and people or companies to > deal with. Also how good is the hiking/ how accessable are the trails, > and how about guides? Thanks for any info. > Darryl
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Does anyone have any information on this island? What’s the climate like, any good beaches, snorkeling, places to stay, interesting sites, etc.? Thanks.
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> Does anyone have any information on this island? What’s the > climate like,
70s to 90s year-round. > any good beaches,
Two nice ones in Cabrits National Park. >snorkeling,
Soufriere Pinnacle, Coral Gardens, Scotts Head Drop-Off, and Canefield Barge are the most popular. >interesting sites, etc.?
Dominica is renowned for its natural beauty. If you’re a nature lover, it won’t disappoint you. Some of the favorite spots for visitors include Morne Trois Pitons National Park, Cabrits National Park, Trafalgar Falls, Emerald Pool, Boeri Lake, Boiling Lake, and Fort Shirley. Take your camera and lots of film. >places to stay,
For accommodations and additional info about Dominica, check out these Web sites… http://www.arawaks.com http://www.delphis.dm/home.htm http://gocaribbean.miningco.com Hope this helps! Kent "CARIBBEAN FOR VISITORS"… Your virtual ticket to paradise! FREE NEWSLETTER * WEEKLY ARTICLES * HUNDREDS OF LINKS * MUCH MORE Brought to you by THE MINING COMPANY and your guide, KENT HUFFMAN
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Here is a post that I made a while ago. I hope that it is useful. Dominica is an extraordinary island. It is unlike most other Caribbean islands in that it has huge mountains and rushing rivers but no white sand beaches. It does have some black sand beaches, but beach lounging is not what draws people to Dominica. One of the main things that does is hiking. Actually, it does not offer hiking so much as it offers HIKING. We took what was touted by some books as a "pleasant rainforest walk" to Middleham Falls. We are in reasonably good shape (for fifty-somethings) but the 4 hours up and down ravines over slippery railway ties was, shall we say, challenging. At the end was both a gorgeous waterfall and the prospect of 4 hours BACK over the same ravines. If you like that (and I’ll bet that all real hikers would), Dominica will offer you all that you want in the way of hiking. It also has lovely people. Part of our trip we stayed on the coast a few miles from the main town. It was a delight to ride the vans that served as buses between our hotel and the town. The people were always friendly and we felt that we were visitors rather than tourists. The Saturday food market was one of the best that we have seen in the Caribbean. As I said, we stayed about 4 days on the coast. Our small hotel (the Evergreen) was lovely, but there was not a sand beach. Rather there was a beach made of stones. We are avid snorkelers. The snorkeling off the stone beach was enough to amuse us for a half hour or so on a couple of afternoons. The food in Dominica was what you should be able to get in the Caribbean but rarely do – many locally grown fruits and vegetables. It was not fancy, but it was real, and it was good. On most other islands, you are more likely to get food from Miami. Our non-coast locale was Papillotte which bills itself as a rainforest retreat. If you go there, ask for the "cabin". We found three or four days there and about the same at Evergreen to be a good combination. Costs for both food and lodging were moderate throughout Dominica. Papillote was an extraordinary place to stay. Our room was in a separate small building away from the main lodge. You reached it by wandering through a lushly planted area and past a creek and waterfall – that’s right, a beautiful little 30 foot or so waterfall. The room was not at all fancy, but the feeling of being a part of the rainforest was something that I think anyone would enjoy for at least a few days and perhaps for much longer. The gorgeous Trafalgar waterfalls are a very easy 20 minute walk from the hotel. The food at the hotel was very good, and there is also a good, small restaurant a few hundred yards down the road. Our hotel on the coast was the Evergreen. It is a small hotel with very attractively decorated rooms and a very good restaurant. It has a small pool if you prefer that to the rock "beach" that I mentioned above. The location was good. The "busses" run frequently and cost only $1 to get to town. You can also take the bus the other direction to Soufriere where there is a good dive operation. There is also a very well thought of dive operator right next door to the Evergreen. We chose the one at Soufriere because it was closer to the area where we had heard there was good snorkeling. The snorkeling was OK (not great), but the whole experience of being in the very quiet town of Soufriere, drinking a fresh coconut that we bought from a man who had just cut it from a palm on the beach, and being with the very friendly dive shop folks made for a very enjoyable day. We spent another day on an excursion to Portsmouth, the town on the northwest coast. The bus ride there took about 1 hour from Roseau (the main town) and cost only $7 – a great bargain. The ride was beautiful as we went along the coast. At one stop some kids came running over to sell bunches of kinips, a small green fruit, tart but delicious. The main attraction in Porstmouth is a rowboat ride up the Indian River. This is about the most touristy thing that you can do on Dominica, and even it is in tune with nature. Just make sure you get a boat that does not use a motor. Just a note about the other most touristy thing: Our greatest disappointment was visiting the famous Emerald Pool when a tour group was there. We were on an around-the-island excursion with a woman from Ken’s Hinterland Tours, but we got to the Emerald Pool at the same time as a group from one of the few cruise ships that stops at Dominica. I could see how the pool could be a wonderful place to be if you were there alone, but seeing it as part of a large group was far worse than not having seen it at all – kind of like getting to the Sistine Chapel on the day of a rock concert. Enjoy! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have any information on this island? What’s the climate like, > any good beaches, snorkeling, places to stay, interesting sites, etc.? > Thanks.
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We were in Dominica during Xmas and New Years 3 Xmas’ ago. I doubt that much has changed. Crowded by Dominica standards is totally uncrowded by any other island’s standards. Except when a cruise ship docked, there were no crowds at all. Most of the places in Dominica do not accomodate significant numbers of tourists, so we were remarkable when we were there as the family staying at Papillote with the blonde and red headed kids. Att the time of our visit Papillote charged $65-75 a night for a room. I don’t believe that Castaways or Evergreen were considerably more…we just heard that papillote was a great place for us to stay. It did not get any more low key than that. Papillote is in the rain forest, with about 8 rooms. The grounds are spectacular. Walking from there to Trafalgar or sitting in their mineral spas is great and easy. It is a drive to anywhere else. For snorkeling, you might consider places that are on the water like Castaways and Evergreen. The former is a bit bigger than Papillote, set on what is described as a beach. It was actually only a small strip of black sand when we were there, but it is on the water. Evergreen looked like a more sophisticated place with a lovely pool, but I don’t know what the rooms are like and if the air of sophistication was real or not. I know the food there was great and the place pretty. We can only tell you that sandwiches at Castaways were fine, so it is hard to compare. Castaways was our second choice of accomodations. Let me know if you need further info that we might drag out of our memories. It was a remarkable vacation. Melanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >We’d like to visit Dominica in December for a couple of weeks and would like >to hear any advice from people who have been there. >We’re hoping for a low-key vacation away from lots of tourists, we just >want to snorkle, walk in the forest and get away from Brooklyn. >How crowded will Dominica be during December? >Anyone know of inexpensive but clean and quite places to stay there? >Any tips about good places to eat, or shops to buy food, or places to >snorkle? >Anything that we should bring with us because it’s unavailable or very >expensive there? >Your advice will be very gratefully received. >"In THIS house we obey the laws of thermo-dynamics" Homer Simpson > (The Simpsons) > ~~ SEX ~~ > My favorite radio show: This American Life > you can hear it anytime at > http://thislife.org/ > not especially much to do with sex but it got your attention, right?
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Melanie gives a very accurate picture of Dominica. We stayed at both Papillote and Evergreen, and if you are staying a week or more you might want to split your time between the two places as we did. Evergreen’s rooms were very attractive and comfortable. Dominica is not the best (or even a very good) place for snorkeling. We were able to amuse ourselves for a half hour or so snorkeling off of Evergreen’s pebble beach. There is a nice beach at Soufriere, which is about a 20 minute bus ride south of the Evergreen, and we went out with the very friendly dive operation there to snorkel. I have included below a post that I made a while ago about Dominica. Feel free to email me if you have other questions. Dominica is an extraordinary island. One of the primary tourist activities is hiking. Actually, it does not offer hiking so much as it offers HIKING. We took what was touted by some books as a "pleasant rainforest walk" to Middleham Falls. We are in reasonably good shape (for fifty-somethings) but the 4 hours up and down ravines over slippery railway ties was, shall we say, challenging. At the end was both a gorgeous waterfall and the prospect of 4 hours BACK over the same ravines. If you like that (and I’ll bet that all real hikers would), Dominica will offer you all that you want in the way of hiking. We were glad that we had done it even though it damn near killed us. Dominica is unique among the islands in having huge mountains and rushing rivers. It also has lovely people. Part of our trip we stayed on the coast a few miles from the main town. It was a delight to ride the vans that served as buses between our hotel and the town. The people were always friendly and we felt that we were visitors rather than tourists. The Saturday food market was one of the best that we have seen in the Caribbean. And the mangoes were absolutely the best. As I said, we stayed about 4 days on the coast. Our small hotel (the Evergreen) was lovely, but there was not a sand beach. Rather there was a beach made of stones. We are avid snorkelers. The snorkeling off the stone beach was enough to amuse us for a half hour or so on a couple of afternoons. The food in Dominica was what you should be able to get in the Caribbean but rarely do – many locally grown fruits and vegetables. It was not fancy, but it was real, and it was good. On most other islands, you are more likely to get food from Miami. Our non-coast locale was Papillotte which bills itself as a rainforest retreat. If you go there, ask for the "cabin". We found three or four days there and about the same at Evergreen to be a good combination. Costs for both food and lodging were moderate throughout Dominica. Papillote was an extraordinary place to stay. Our room was in a separate small building away from the main lodge. You reached it by wandering through a lushly planted area and past a creek and waterfall – that’s right, a beautiful little 30 foot or so waterfall. The room was not at all fancy, but the feeling of being a part of the rainforest was something that I think anyone would enjoy for at least a few days and perhaps for much longer. The gorgeous Trafalgar waterfalls are a very easy 20 minute walk from the hotel. The food at the hotel was very good, and there is also a good, small restaurant a few hundred yards down the road. Our hotel on the coast was the Evergreen. It is a small hotel with very attractively decorated rooms and a very good restaurant. It has a small pool if you prefer that to the rock "beach" that I mentioned above. The location was good. The "busses" run frequently and cost only $1 to get to town. You can also take the bus the other direction to Soufriere where there is a good dive operation. There is also a very well thought of dive operator right next door to the Evergreen. We chose the one at Soufriere because it was closer to the area where we had heard there was good snorkeling. The snorkeling was OK (not great), but the whole experience of being in the very quiet town of Soufriere, drinking a fresh coconut that we bought from a man who had just cut it from a palm on the beach, and being with the very friendly dive shop folks made for a very enjoyable day. We spent another day on an excursion to Portsmouth, the town on the northwest coast. The bus ride there took about 1 hour from Roseau (the main town) and cost only $7 – a great bargain. The ride was beautiful as we went along the coast. At one stop some kids came running over to sell bunches of kinips, a small green fruit, tart but delicious. The main attraction in Porstmouth is a rowboat ride up the Indian River. This is about the most touristy thing that you can do on Dominica, and even it is in tune with nature. Just make sure you get a boat that does not use a motor. Just a note about the other most touristy thing: Our greatest disappointment was visiting the famous Emerald Pool when a tour group was there. We were on an around-the-island excursion with a woman from Ken’s Hinterland Tours, but we got to the Emerald Pool at the same time as a group from one of the few cruise ships that stops at Dominica. I could see how the pool could be a wonderful place to be if you were there alone, but seeing it as part of a large group was far worse than not having seen it at all – kind of like getting to the Sistine Chapel on the day of a rock concert. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We were in Dominica during Xmas and New Years 3 Xmas’ ago. I doubt > that much has changed. Crowded by Dominica standards is totally > uncrowded by any other island’s standards. Except when a cruise ship > docked, there were no crowds at all. Most of the places in Dominica > do not accomodate significant numbers of tourists, so we were > remarkable when we were there as the family staying at Papillote with > the blonde and red headed kids. Att the time of our visit Papillote > charged $65-75 a night for a room. I don’t believe that Castaways or > Evergreen were considerably more…we just heard that papillote was a > great place for us to stay. It did not get any more low key than > that. Papillote is in the rain forest, with about 8 rooms. The > grounds are spectacular. Walking from there to Trafalgar or sitting > in their mineral spas is great and easy. It is a drive to anywhere > else. For snorkeling, you might consider places that are on the water > like Castaways and Evergreen. The former is a bit bigger than > Papillote, set on what is described as a beach. It was actually only > a small strip of black sand when we were there, but it is on the > water. Evergreen looked like a more sophisticated place with a lovely > pool, but I don’t know what the rooms are like and if the air of > sophistication was real or not. I know the food there was great and > the place pretty. We can only tell you that sandwiches at Castaways > were fine, so it is hard to compare. Castaways was our second choice > of accomodations. Let me know if you need further info that we might > drag out of our memories. It was a remarkable vacation. Melanie >We’d like to visit Dominica in December for a couple of weeks and would like >to hear any advice from people who have been there. >We’re hoping for a low-key vacation away from lots of tourists, we just >want to snorkle, walk in the forest and get away from Brooklyn. >How crowded will Dominica be during December? >Anyone know of inexpensive but clean and quite places to stay there? >Any tips about good places to eat, or shops to buy food, or places to >snorkle? >Anything that we should bring with us because it’s unavailable or very >expensive there? >Your advice will be very gratefully received. >"In THIS house we obey the laws of thermo-dynamics" Homer Simpson > (The Simpsons) > ~~ SEX ~~ > My favorite radio show: This American Life > you can hear it anytime at > http://thislife.org/ > not especially much to do with sex but it got your attention, right?
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Dominica is perfect for a low keyed vacation. Christmas time is also very festive in this little island. As far as hotel goes there are some lovely quest houses in the north. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >We’d like to visit Dominica in December for a couple of weeks and would like >to hear any advice from people who have been there. >We’re hoping for a low-key vacation away from lots of tourists, we just >want to snorkle, walk in the forest and get away from Brooklyn. >How crowded will Dominica be during December? >Anyone know of inexpensive but clean and quite places to stay there? >Any tips about good places to eat, or shops to buy food, or places to >snorkle? >Anything that we should bring with us because it’s unavailable or very >expensive there? >Your advice will be very gratefully received. >"In THIS house we obey the laws of thermo-dynamics" Homer Simpson > (The Simpsons) > ~~ SEX ~~ > My favorite radio show: This American Life > you can hear it anytime at > http://thislife.org/ > not especially much to do with sex but it got your attention, right?
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Roxy’s Mountain Lodge is a clean, quiet place to stay in the Villag of Laudat. Laudat is the gateway to the the Boiling Lake, Freshwater Lake, forests, etc. Roxy’s actually has a web page. Whoever asked about Dominica info, feel free to e-mail me privately. Have family there and would be happy to give you info. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Dominica is perfect for a low keyed vacation. Christmas time is also very > festive in this little island. As far as hotel goes there are some lovely > quest houses in the north. >We’d like to visit Dominica in December for a couple of weeks and would > like >to hear any advice from people who have been there. >We’re hoping for a low-key vacation away from lots of tourists, we just >want to snorkle, walk in the forest and get away from Brooklyn. >How crowded will Dominica be during December? >Anyone know of inexpensive but clean and quite places to stay there? >Any tips about good places to eat, or shops to buy food, or places to >snorkle? >Anything that we should bring with us because it’s unavailable or very >expensive there? >Your advice will be very gratefully received. >"In THIS house we obey the laws of thermo-dynamics" Homer Simpson > (The Simpsons) > ~~ SEX ~~ > My favorite radio show: This American Life > you can hear it anytime at > http://thislife.org/ > not especially much to do with sex but it got your attention, right?
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Does anyone know of a good guide book to Dominica? I’m looking for a good source of unbiased (not an ad/brochure, or anyone with a financial interest) information. Thanks. Darryl
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> Does anyone know of a good guide book to Dominica? > I’m looking for a good source of unbiased (not an ad/brochure, or > anyone with a financial interest) information. Thanks. > Darryl
There is a volume in the series of island guides published by MacMillan Caribbean on Dominica, by Lennox Honeychurch. Its a good general introduction but lacks specifics like where to stay, eat etc. Lonely Planet guide to the Eastern Caribbean has a reasonably accurate chapter on Dominica but unless a newer version has come out (mine is October 1994), its getting a bit out of date. Why not get the info you need from this newsgroup? Anita Malhotra
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As mentioned, the book Dominica: Isle of Adventure by Lennox Honychurch has a lot of interesting info on the island. But the stuff sent by the tourist board is also full of info and is free. What specifically are you seeking? info on where to stay? what to do? sites? Melanie (It’s a car) ______ (oo=00=oo) []=****=[]
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>Does anyone know of a good guide book to Dominica? >Darryl
Well funny you should say that but we’re off there in December for our honeymoon so I’ve been searching for good guide books. I’ve come across 3 so far. Carribean Sunseekers ‘Dominica’. Last printed in 1995, so possibly out of date a bit but got some quite nice photos and some maps. Does mention places to stay too. Caribbean Islands Handbook which is reprinted yearly has a section on Dominica and seems good. (we used it when we went to Barbados and it was ok). Cadogan does a guide for the whole of the Caribbean too, which is factual but mentions places to stay as well as eating places etc. There is an Ordnance survey map too (scale 1:50000) which is fairly good! There are some good web sites if you haven’t already found them too eg www.delphis.dm which had lots of useful stuff. The Dominican Tourist Board in London was great and sent some good stuff and lists of accomodation too. Hope this helps and hava a good trip!! Julie Odell (please replace NOSPAM with bottlenose if replying by email)
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>Does anyone know of a good guide book to Dominica? >Darryl
Dominica is a beautiful place!! If you like nature you’ll love it!!! If I get a chance I’ll see if I can find an old book I have(can’t remember the name) that’s published annually in the UK (we bought it in the US) and is a guide to the whole caribbean but has information that all the others fell short on. Casey — http://www.aquaarts.com
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Thinking about vacationing in Dominica late April or May. Want to hike, bird watch, fish, snorkel and relax. Any suggestions, as to accommodations and guides?
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We stayed at Papillote in dominica for almost 2 weeks last Xmas and loved it. The only thing we did not do was snorkel. The Syndicate trail is great for bird watching. We went with a guide named Lewis at the early afternoon time, which everyone claimed would be too late for birding…and will wonders never cease we managed to see multiples of the two kinds of parrots, watched the rain roll in from the valley until it finally hit the side we were on. Lewis was full of knowledge about things Dominican and included lots of information perfect for our kids, like which plants grew where and what fresh coffee beans, fresh cocoa were like. He made a real effort to educate us which added a lot to our enjoyment. We picked fresh mandarins, oranges, and grapefruits that still have our kids drooling since they were so delicious! In fact this year we were disappointed that no one has the fresh fruit juices so easily available as on Dominica! We swam in the Layou River and along the Syndicate trailhead in the river there and went into the sulphur springs. We did most of the Boiling Lake hike (at least of the 4 of us, 2 stopped at Breakfast river and 2 went on with the guide up to the Valley of Desolation). In this one instance we made a big mistake and took a lousy guide. While he was recommended on the net, it turned out that he started us way too late for us to complete the hike; if he had looked more carefully at us (including our then 12 year old daughter), he would have started us early so that we could break along the way. Instead we started driving toward the trail at 10 AM, leaving us little time for pacing ourselves…and it is a tough hike. Back at Papillote, the owners did tell us that they do not recommend this guide even though he hangs out at the place; they recommend Alfred, and the visitors who went with him did make it to the end and back. We enjoyed the Emerald Grotto immensely and found the people of Dominica to be truly wonderful. As an interesting aside, if you stop and chat with them, they open up and share a side you might not normally see. For example, before leaving the museum in Roseau, we asked the docent a simple question about the new prime minister, something like, "I see you have a new PM. How are things?" We were treated to a half hour lecture on politics in Dominica and what it was like for the people there. Similarly in the botanical gardens, we stopped to chat with a worker there who gave us a long talk on the uses and names of all the various plants and herbs there, including questions about how we Americans use the same plants. In all, we did not really have any bad experiences anywhere on Dominica and we enjoyed our stay immensely. Papillote was a lovely and very interesting place and I can tell you that after we returned to a horrible winter, I regularly wished to be in the hot spa at Papillote, where no aches were allowed!! have a great time! Melanie and David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Thinking about vacationing in Dominica late April or May. Want to hike, >bird watch, fish, snorkel and relax. Any suggestions, as to >accommodations and guides?
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>Thinking about vacationing in Dominica late April or May. Want to hike, >bird watch, fish, snorkel and relax. Any suggestions, as to >accommodations and guides?
The Fort Young Hotel is nice. Get a second floor room. Big with nice views. The restaurant is not great so I’d look elsewhere for food.
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I am going on a cruise at the end of March and one of my stops is Dominica. I am very interested in finding out about hiking opportunities while there. Please e-mail me with any info you may have. Thanks
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> I am going on a cruise at the end of March and one of my stops is > Dominica. I am very interested in finding out about hiking > opportunities while there. > Please e-mail me with any info you may have. > Thanks
Hi I’ve done a fair bit of hiking here in Dominica – see http://www.delphis.dm/thelake.htm and http://www.delphis.dm/hidden.htm for more details and photos.
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I would appreciate hearing from anyone who stayed at Castle Comfort Lodge. Also seeking jeep rental, dining recommendations. Thanks Jerry
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>I would appreciate hearing from anyone who stayed at Castle Comfort >Lodge. Also seeking jeep rental, dining recommendations. Thanks >Jerry
Hi, Jerry. I have’t stayed at Castle Comfort, but you might enjoy looking at pictures of Dominica on our web site. If you rent a jeep, you will probaby be required to take the insurance even if you are covered by credit card or whatever else. So we chose a car rather than the jeep. Everywhere we drove the roads were paved just fine. They were, however very narrow, mountaneous and curvy, so it was scarey. You can arrange a car rental in advance from the US. It is recommended to eat at Papillote in the mountains. We stayed there too and would recommend the split between ocean and mountains if you like jungle. You can see pictures of Papillote as well. You will need reservations there — they serve lunch and dinner. They are right by the hot and cold running waterfall and they pipe hot water into their hot tub (which you can see on our web site too — although not maybe distinguish that the water comes out of a dolphin mouth). Judy Four Winds Travel Services, Inc. 630-851-4336, 800-447-2186 http://www.4windstravel.com/
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Hi Greg and Kathy, As Lorrie pointed out, Ken’s Hinterland Adventures can be an excellent first page to consult: http://www.kenshinterlandtours.com/comtodomoncr.html Aloha
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just be careful if you hire a guide to take you swimming in the waterfalls.. friends of mine were told to "leave their stuff" on the rocks so it wouldnt get wet and then when they were swimming, the guide signaled to his friends and some of their stuff was stolen- they did catch them in the act so they didnt get away with everything. I loved Dominica. 
Sandi
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Nice folks, pretty nature, quaint town, every reason to pop in, say hello, drop some bucks, and mind your manners. It’s not Rio but it’s also not St.Thomas. Be thankful for your luck.
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Thanks to everyone for your input! We were not sure about Dominica but it sounds very interesting. We’ve contacted Ken’s Hinterland Adventures and are looking forward to seeing a "new" island. Thanks again. Greg and Kathy Holiday 11/24/01 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi All, > We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never > had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a > few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a > few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks > like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any > suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly > appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re > curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that > we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t > one of them. > Thank you in advance. > Greg and Kathy > Holiday 11/24/01
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For great photographs of Dominica please click this link below: http://communities.msn.com/DimitriSokolenko
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> For great photographs of Dominica please click this link below: > http://communities.msn.com/DimitriSokolenko
Hello, Some people told me that they have problems when they trying to download pictures of Dominica from my MSN Photo Album (see above). You can take a look at same pictures of Dominica on my different Webshots Photo Album: http://community.webshots.com/user/dimitrisokolenko
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Greg, One of my favorite ports is Dominica. I agree with Robocop…the island is unspoiled and natural. I enjoyed the Champagne Snorkeling Tour ! Snorkeling in thermal bubbles was very enjoyable. When you initially step off the ship you will face many cabbies and solicitors…selling tours and local products.
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Hi All, We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t one of them. Thank you in advance. Greg and Kathy Holiday 11/24/01
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We had a wonderful day on Dominica a couple of years ago. It’s a very beautiful island. We booked a tour with Ken’s Hinterland Adventure Tours 1-800-448-4850 and had an exciting tour of Trafalgar Falls, Ti-Tou Gorge, where we actually swam up the gorge, and the Sulphur Springs. It was a great day. Lorrie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi All, > We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never > had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a > few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a > few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks > like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any > suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly > appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re > curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that > we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t > one of them. > Thank you in advance. > Greg and Kathy > Holiday 11/24/01
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Greg, Dominica is a truly beautiful and unspoiled island. There just isn’t much to do there in the way of shopping, beaches, and other stuff that many tourist look for. Take an island tour and see the waterfalls, Avery, and jungle. It really is a beautiful island and somewhat primitive, which is why it has remains so damn beautiful IMHO. I loved the place. Be advised that there is some abject poverty there but I didn’t get any bad vibes of danger. Jim Community Staff Leader http://www.cruisemates.com The Internet Cruise Magazine
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi All, > We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never > had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a > few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a > few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks > like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any > suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly > appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re > curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that > we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t > one of them. > Thank you in advance. > Greg and Kathy > Holiday 11/24/01
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Hi Greg and Kathy, As Lorrie pointed out, Ken’s Hinterland Adventures can be an excellent first page to consult: http://www.kenshinterlandtours.com/comtodomoncr.html Aloha
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just be careful if you hire a guide to take you swimming in the waterfalls.. friends of mine were told to "leave their stuff" on the rocks so it wouldnt get wet and then when they were swimming, the guide signaled to his friends and some of their stuff was stolen- they did catch them in the act so they didnt get away with everything. I loved Dominica. Sandi
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Nice folks, pretty nature, quaint town, every reason to pop in, say hello, drop some bucks, and mind your manners. It’s not Rio but it’s also not St.Thomas. Be thankful for your luck.
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Thanks to everyone for your input! We were not sure about Dominica but it sounds very interesting. We’ve contacted Ken’s Hinterland Adventures and are looking forward to seeing a "new" island. Thanks again. Greg and Kathy Holiday 11/24/01 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi All, > We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never > had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a > few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a > few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks > like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any > suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly > appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re > curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that > we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t > one of them. > Thank you in advance. > Greg and Kathy > Holiday 11/24/01
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For great photographs of Dominica please click this link below: http://communities.msn.com/DimitriSokolenko
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> For great photographs of Dominica please click this link below: > http://communities.msn.com/DimitriSokolenko
Hello, Some people told me that they have problems when they trying to download pictures of Dominica from my MSN Photo Album (see above). You can take a look at same pictures of Dominica on my different Webshots Photo Album: http://community.webshots.com/user/dimitrisokolenko
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Greg, One of my favorite ports is Dominica. I agree with Robocop…the island is unspoiled and natural. I enjoyed the Champagne Snorkeling Tour ! Snorkeling in thermal bubbles was very enjoyable. When you initially step off the ship you will face many cabbies and solicitors…selling tours and local products.
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Hi All, We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t one of them. Thank you in advance. Greg and Kathy Holiday 11/24/01
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We had a wonderful day on Dominica a couple of years ago. It’s a very beautiful island. We booked a tour with Ken’s Hinterland Adventure Tours 1-800-448-4850 and had an exciting tour of Trafalgar Falls, Ti-Tou Gorge, where we actually swam up the gorge, and the Sulphur Springs. It was a great day. Lorrie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi All, > We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never > had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a > few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a > few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks > like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any > suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly > appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re > curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that > we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t > one of them. > Thank you in advance. > Greg and Kathy > Holiday 11/24/01
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Greg, Dominica is a truly beautiful and unspoiled island. There just isn’t much to do there in the way of shopping, beaches, and other stuff that many tourist look for. Take an island tour and see the waterfalls, Avery, and jungle. It really is a beautiful island and somewhat primitive, which is why it has remains so damn beautiful IMHO. I loved the place. Be advised that there is some abject poverty there but I didn’t get any bad vibes of danger. Jim Community Staff Leader http://www.cruisemates.com The Internet Cruise Magazine
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi All, > We’ve cruised a lot in the past 20 years but have never > had the opportunity to visit Dominica before. We checked a > few web sites and got the basics but we would really like a > few personal opinions. BTW…we love beaches but it looks > like they are not one of Dominica’s strong points. Any > suggestions, warnings or other information would be greatly > appreciated. As only a few ships stop there, we’re > curious. We’ve occasionally come across ports of call that > we’ve designated "SOS" (stay on ship)… I hope this isn’t > one of them. > Thank you in advance. > Greg and Kathy > Holiday 11/24/01
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> Wow! Where does he find all the time to come up with all these
One has to wonder how Nomen Nescio (Mike) has the time to track JF!
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>> If you don’t want to visit misc.travel.air-industry, don’t visit it. > However, we’re seeing substantial traffic on the site from people > who appreciate a moderated site without the off-topic garbage found > elsewhere. >Exactly. What the heck is wrong having a travel site which actually >stays with that topic? And if your post to r.t.a also gets posted to >the m.t.a-i site, consider it a complement. It is not like >contributions never see cross posting.
I don’t know where you are seeing "substantial traffic" in m.t.a.i. I subscribe to it and I check daily. There has been one message in two days. You are wrong on your rationalization of cross-posting. If I send a message to RTA then I don’t expect it to be crossposted to MTAI JUST to create more traffic in MTAI.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > road and took a dump, in plain view for all to see: >> This is dishonest in the extreme. First, there is no "substantial" >> traffic. Just a trickle of messages. On some days there are no >> messages at all. >Look Nomen. If you want any respect, stop posting through dizum. > Ahaaahaaahaahaahaahaa!!! > You lecturing others on respect and how to post is the funniest irony > ever, especially in light of these very "respectful" aliases you were > caught using to troll rec.travel.air, sci.space.shuttle, and various > other groups:
Wow! Where does he find all the time to come up with all these — Best Greg
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> J.F., in all honesty, you really aren’t in a position to play that >> card. You were posting here under a goofy synonym that everyone knew >Has it ever occured to you that there was and still is a very good reason to >use a goofy name ? Think Nomen Nescio. > My point was and always has been using a stupid nickname when > everybody knows who you are accomplishes nothing. If people want to > keep bringing certain things up, which is their prerogative in a > public forum, then they will no matter how creative or uncreative your > handle is. >I wish that one day he/they update their scripts to also harass and stalk you. >You’ll find youself using similar tactics very quickly. And if you are unhappy >about my "nobody", then be fair and apply your criticism to all others who use >a non descript nickname. There are plenty fo people who use this where you can >in fact know their real identity. > Like it or not, operating on a public forum exposes a person to > ridicule. That has nothing to do with me or anyone else — it’s just > the way life is. >Remember that the dizum server and their ilk allow (and often condone) the >forging of identities. And consider the implications of this in tye long term, >especially when you have morons likep Greg Morrow whose sole purpose on the >newsgroups is to quote verbatim Nomen’s vomit so that it gets indexed into Google. >Just because you dislike me doesn’t mean that you have to support the Nomens. > I don’t have a personal dislike for you. I have an intense dislike for > your hatred of the U.S. and your inability to see the fact that Canada > and Europe, and the vast majority of the civilized world, have done > their share of crap too.
Well wow, I am honored to see that the cretin JF Mezei thinks I am behind his little "conspiracies"…I guess sending those stealth helicopters hovering over his mommy’s house did *some* good…lol. — Best Greg
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[blah blah blah SNIP!] >Nobody else gives a damn whether or not you like or trust moderated sites.
Obviously YOU do, since you responded with that long-winded JFesque tirade. Maybe Levine will make you feel better by plundering a few more messages from rta to create some more artificial traffic for m.t.a-i.
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> If you don’t want to visit misc.travel.air-industry, don’t visit it. > However, we’re seeing substantial traffic on the site from people > who appreciate a moderated site without the off-topic garbage found > elsewhere.
Exactly. What the heck is wrong having a travel site which actually stays with that topic? And if your post to r.t.a also gets posted to the m.t.a-i site, consider it a complement. It is not like contributions never see cross posting.
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road and took a dump, in plain view for all to see: > This is dishonest in the extreme. First, there is no "substantial" > traffic. Just a trickle of messages. On some days there are no > messages at all. >Look Nomen. If you want any respect, stop posting through dizum.
Ahaaahaaahaahaahaahaa!!! You lecturing others on respect and how to post is the funniest irony ever, especially in light of these very "respectful" aliases you were caught using to troll rec.travel.air, sci.space.shuttle, and various other groups:
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defecated: > J.F., in all honesty, you really aren’t in a position to play that > card. You were posting here under a goofy synonym that everyone knew >Has it ever occured to you that there was and still is a very good reason to >use a goofy name ? Think Nomen Nescio. Boo-hoo!!! Nomen doesn’t like me! >Boo-hoo-hooo!!! I should be free to troll the newsgroups 24 hours a >day as I see >fit without anyone embarassing me!!! That Nomen is making fun of me and it >hurts my feelings! Waaaaahhh!!!! Wait till it happens to you! Waawaawahhh!!! >Nomen Nomen Nomen, my life is miserable because Nomen won’t let me troll!!!
Hey JF, idiot, have you ever noticed that all this "stalking" (convenient victim word you like to use to feed your all-consuming paranoia) you claim happens is really only happening to you and one other person? Have you ever wondered why it never happens to 99% of the other people who post here, many of whom post using their real names??? If you’d stop masturbating and using illegal drugs you might notice that you and that other idiot, who is as big a troll and netkook as you, are the only ones singled out. See? Masturbation really DOES make you go blind. Think about it – with the 1 brain cell you may have left.
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> Do you think we are paid each time somebody visits > misc.travel.air-industry? > Frankly, misc.travel.air-industry was revived to offer an alternative to > this site without the spam and off-topic stuff. > And John Levine, JF Mezei, and I post there under our own names.
So do I. Jeff, he must be jealous–you know what they say about crabs in the pot.
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>However, we’re seeing substantial traffic on the site from people who >appreciate a moderated site
This is dishonest in the extreme. First, there is no "substantial" traffic. Just a trickle of messages. On some days there are no messages at all. Second, 95% of the messages are generated by you, Mezei, and Levine – the moderators. Third, a good number of those are messages you three poach from rec.travel.air. How can anyone trust such dishonest individuals, especially when they are the *moderators*?!?
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> This is dishonest in the extreme. First, there is no "substantial" > traffic. Just a trickle of messages. On some days there are no > messages at all.
Look Nomen. If you want any respect, stop posting through dizum. If you’re unhappy about dizum being blocked from moderated newsgroups, you have only yourself and all your friends to blame since you are the ones who have abused and misused dizum. Rebuilding misc.transport.air-industry won’t happen overnight. Luckily, sci.aeronautics, airliners is also being rescussitated and together, we may be able to rebuild participation levels. It also requires work to ensure major news services have the right configuration for the moderated newsgroup, and working out the software kinks that prevents many legitimate posters from contributing.
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>> This is dishonest in the extreme. First, there is no "substantial" > traffic. Just a trickle of messages. On some days there are no > messages at all. >Look Nomen. If you want any respect, stop posting through dizum. If you’re >unhappy about dizum being blocked from moderated newsgroups, you have only >yourself and all your friends to blame since you are the ones who have abused >and misused dizum.
Idiot. I have no desire to post in your stupid little group. I don’t post in moderated groups, period. I don’t trust them, I don’t trust moderators, and I would never EVER trust any group that would choose YOU as a moderator. I’m simply doing this to alert others who might not know what is going on. And for you, possibly the biggest troll and netkook in the history of usenet, to be lecturing others on respect and how to post appropriately is just insane beyond words. But then, it’s coming from you, and nothing is too insane when it comes to you. After reading your rabid, foaming at the mouth paranoid rants and tirades against the USA for years, and the rest of your off the wall conspiracy theories, which you post 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, year after year after year, there is nothing one wouldn’t believe about you, or be shocked by if it has to do with you. To say that you are psychotic would be the biggest understatement in the world. Hope this helps. Now fuck off and die, kook.
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> J.F., in all honesty, you really aren’t in a position to play that > card. You were posting here under a goofy synonym that everyone knew
Has it ever occured to you that there was and still is a very good reason to use a goofy name ? Think Nomen Nescio. I wish that one day he/they update their scripts to also harass and stalk you. You’ll find youself using similar tactics very quickly. And if you are unhappy about my "nobody", then be fair and apply your criticism to all others who use a non descript nickname. There are plenty fo people who use this where you can in fact know their real identity. Remember that the dizum server and their ilk allow (and often condone) the forging of identities. And consider the implications of this in tye long term, especially when you have morons likep Greg Morrow whose sole purpose on the newsgroups is to quote verbatim Nomen’s vomit so that it gets indexed into Google. Just because you dislike me doesn’t mean that you have to support the Nomens. > just because you started getting a rough reception. At least you’ve > stopped that now, which may help you build some credibility.
I have not stopped. Not until the Nomens stop harassing and stalking me. Unlike the Nomens, I do not stalk, harass people, nor do I forge other poster’s email adresses nor do I cross post stuff users say to many newsgroups. If anyone has any criticism, it should be directed to the Nomens.
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[snip] > Idiot. > I have no desire to post in your stupid little group. I don’t post in > moderated groups, period. I don’t trust them, I don’t trust > moderators, and I would never EVER trust any group that would choose > YOU as a moderator. > I’m simply doing this to alert others who might not know what is going > on.
[snip] There. you’ve said it (from behind your anonymous posting service). You don’t post in moderated groups. You don’t trust moderators. That’s your privilege. But you have no problem with your comments here which really have nothing to do with rec.travel.air, and you’re obviously reading misc.transport.air-industry enough to make a judgment about the postings on that site. A moderated site will always have fewer postings than an unmoderated one. misc.transport.air-industry is doing quite well with postings now, and we hope it will grow. If you want to visit the site, great. If not, that’s your business. Nobody else gives a damn whether or not you like or trust moderated sites.
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Posters in rec.travel.air should be aware: Your posts are being stolen and replied to in misc.transport.air-industry without notifying you. This unethical practice is being perpetrated by the moderators of m.t.a-i because they want to increase traffic in their group since no one is posting there. The biggest perpetrator of these unethical practices is John R. Levine, the one whose "Moderator coordination and support is graciously provided by". Shame on him, he should know better. Ask yourself: How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup whose moderation coordinator pulls that kind of crap. How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup where one of the moderators is *JF MEZEI*??? How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup where another one of the moderators is Jeff Hacker? Jeff Hacker is an ardent Bushite who is quick to flame any poster on RTA who expresses a political view he disagrees with and is quick to call for a moderated newsgroup yet at the same time is most happy to push his own neo-con views on others and spread false political propaganda and outright lies. How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup where you do not have a full list of all the moderators, a newsgroup FAQ, or a clear policy statement on who will be reviewing your posts and what the criteria is for approving or rejecting them. If some mysterious force still manages to compel you to post there, at the very least ask for four things before you do: 1) A regularly posted list to the newsgroup of ALL the moderators with their e-mail addresses (of their real ISPs, not some free web-based throwaway account) and their policies for disciplining/removing moderators who act inappropriately. If they don’t have these policies in place, ask to have them written up and posted with a pledge that they will be enforced! before you begin posting to the newsgroup. 2) A newsgroup FAQ regularly posted to the newsgroup. 3) A clear statement regularly posted to the newsgroup of what the policies are for accepting or rejecting posts and if there is an appeal process for rejected messages. 4) A clear statement regularly posted to the newsgroup on what the policies are for banning people from posting in the group and if there is an appeal process. The vast majority of usenet posters hate moderated groups, and for good reason. Moderated newsgroups (and their web counterparts, forums) tend to be heavily censored and run by Nazi moderators and petty little dictators who love to lord it over others. Most moderators are highly biased and act in a very inconsistent manner, especially when rejecting/deleting messages and banning posters, despite their claims to the contrary. If you still must post in a moderated newsgroup, at least ask for clear policies and FAQs and demand full ACCOUTABILITY and RESPONSIBILITY from the moderators.
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Do you think we are paid each time somebody visits misc.travel.air-industry? Frankly, misc.travel.air-industry was revived to offer an alternative to this site without the spam and off-topic stuff. And John Levine, JF Mezei, and I post there under our own names. Also, with your inane comments about our opinions and politics (which you also won’t see mentioned on that site), did you ever stop and think that we (the moderators) don’t necessarily agree on much in that arena? JF Mezei associating with an "ardent Bushite???" If you don’t want to visit misc.travel.air-industry, don’t visit it. However, we’re seeing substantial traffic on the site from people who appreciate a moderated site without the off-topic garbage found elsewhere. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Posters in rec.travel.air should be aware: > Your posts are being stolen and replied to in > misc.transport.air-industry without notifying you. > This unethical practice is being perpetrated by the moderators of > m.t.a-i because they want to increase traffic in their group since no > one is posting there. The biggest perpetrator of these unethical > practices is John R. Levine, the one whose "Moderator coordination and > support is graciously provided by". Shame on him, he should know > better. > Ask yourself: > How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup whose moderation > coordinator pulls that kind of crap. > How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup where one of the > moderators is *JF MEZEI*??? > How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup where another one of > the moderators is Jeff Hacker? Jeff Hacker is an ardent Bushite who > is quick to flame any poster on RTA who expresses a political view he > disagrees with and is quick to call for a moderated newsgroup yet at > the same time is most happy to push his own neo-con views on others > and spread false political propaganda and outright lies. > How much would you trust a moderated newsgroup where you do not have a > full list of all the moderators, a newsgroup FAQ, or a clear policy > statement on who will be reviewing your posts and what the criteria is > for approving or rejecting them. > If some mysterious force still manages to compel you to post there, at > the very least ask for four things before you do: > 1) A regularly posted list to the newsgroup of ALL the moderators with > their e-mail addresses (of their real ISPs, not some free web-based > throwaway account) and their policies for disciplining/removing > moderators who act inappropriately. If they don’t have these policies > in place, ask to have them written up and posted with a pledge that > they will be enforced! before you begin posting to the newsgroup. > 2) A newsgroup FAQ regularly posted to the newsgroup. > 3) A clear statement regularly posted to the newsgroup of what the > policies are for accepting or > rejecting posts and if there is an appeal process for rejected > messages. > 4) A clear statement regularly posted to the newsgroup on what the > policies are for banning people from posting in the group and if there > is an appeal process. > The vast majority of usenet posters hate moderated groups, and for > good reason. Moderated newsgroups (and their web counterparts, > forums) tend to be heavily censored and run by Nazi moderators and > petty little dictators who love to lord it over others. Most > moderators are highly biased and act in a very inconsistent manner, > especially when rejecting/deleting messages and banning posters, > despite their claims to the contrary. > If you still must post in a moderated newsgroup, at least ask for > clear policies and FAQs and demand full ACCOUTABILITY and > RESPONSIBILITY from the moderators.
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TOP 25 Countries Real Growth Rate 1. Turkmenistan 21.10 % 2. Equatorial Guinea 20.00 % 3. East Timor 18.00 % 4. Armenia 12.90 % 5. Liechtenstein 11.00 % 6. Azerbaijan 10.60 % 7. Rwanda 9.70 % 8. Kazakhstan 9.50 % 9. Macau 9.50 % 10. Angola 9.40 % 11. Tajikistan 9.10 % 12. China 8.00 % 13. Turkey 7.80 % 14. Bhutan 7.70 % 15. Mozambique 7.70 % 16. Iran 7.60 % 17. San Marino 7.50 % 18. Chad 7.40 % 19. Albania 7.30 % 20. Vietnam 7.00 % 21. Ireland 6.90 % 22. Lithuania 6.70 % 23. Sierra Leone 6.60 % 24. Moldova 6.50 % 25. Korea, South 6.30 % TOP 25 Countries per capita purchasing power 1. Luxembourg 48,900 $ 2. United States 36,300 $ 3. Bermuda 35,200 $ 4. Cayman Islands 35,000 $ 5. San Marino 34,600 $ 6. Norway 33,000 $ 7. Switzerland 32,000 $ 8. Iceland 30,200 $ 9. Canada 29,300 $ 10. Ireland 29,300 $ 11. Belgium 29,200 $ 12. Denmark 28,900 $ 13. Japan 28,700 $ 14. Aruba 28,000 $ 15. Austria 27,900 $ 16. Hong Kong 27,200 $ 17. Netherlands 27,200 $ 18. Monaco 27,000 $ 19. Australia 26,900 $ 20. Germany 26,200 $ 21. France 26,000 $ 22. Sweden 26,000 $ 23. Finland 25,800 $ 24. United Kingdom 25,500 $ 25. Singapore 25,200 $ Number of Televisions 1. China 400,000,000 2. United States 219,000,000 3. Japan 86,500,000 4. India 63,000,000 5. Russia 60,500,000 6. Germany 51,400,000 7. Brazil 36,500,000 8. France 34,800,000 9. United Kingdom 30,500,000 10. Italy 30,300,000 11. Mexico 25,600,000 12. Canada 21,500,000 13. Turkey 20,900,000 14. Ukraine 18,050,000 15. Spain 16,200,000 16. Korea, South 15,900,000 17. Thailand 15,190,000 18. Indonesia 13,750,000 19. Poland 13,050,000 20. Malaysia 10,800,000 21. Australia 10,150,000 22. Taiwan 8,800,000 23. Netherlands 8,100,000 24. Argentina 7,950,000 25. Egypt 7,700 Military Expenditures as percent of GDP 1. Korea, North 33.90 % 2. Mali 15.00 % 3. Saudi Arabia 13.00 % 4. Ethiopia 12.60 % 5. Oman 12.20 % 6. Eritrea 12.00 % 7. Qatar 10.00 % 8. Israel 8.75 % 9. Jordan 8.60 % 10 Maldives 8.60 % 11. Afghanistan 7.70 % 12. Bahrain 6.70 % 13. Armenia 6.50 % 14. Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 6.00 % 15. Syria 5.90 % 16. Kuwait 5.50 % 17. Angola 5.40 % 18. Burundi 5.30 % 19. New Caledonia 5.30 % 20. Yemen 5.20 % 21. Brunei 5.00 % 22. Greece 4.91 % 23. Singapore 4.90 % 24. Lebanon 4.80 % 25. Swaziland 4.75 % 26. Congo, Democratic Republic of the 4.60 % 27. Pakistan 4.60 % 28. Bosnia and Herzegovina 4.50 % 29. Turkey 4.50 % 30. Djibouti 4.40 % 31. China 4.30 % 32. Laos 4.20 % 33. Sri Lanka 4.20 % 34. Algeria 4.10 % 35. Egypt 4.10 % 36. Cuba 4.00 % 37. Morocco 4.00 % 38. Libya 3.90 % 39. Tajikistan 3.90 % 40. Cyprus 3.80 % 41. Mauritania 3.70 % 42. Botswana 3.50 % 43. Colombia 3.40 % 44. Ecuador 3.40 % 45. Turkmenistan 3.40 % 46. Guinea 3.30 % 47. United States 3.20 % all from http://www.geographyiq.com
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Define the amount of time sampled.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> TOP 25 Countries Real Growth Rate > 1. Turkmenistan 21.10 % > 2. Equatorial Guinea 20.00 % > 3. East Timor 18.00 % > 4. Armenia 12.90 % > 5. Liechtenstein 11.00 % > 6. Azerbaijan 10.60 % > 7. Rwanda 9.70 % > 8. Kazakhstan 9.50 % > 9. Macau 9.50 % > 10. Angola 9.40 % > 11. Tajikistan 9.10 % > 12. China 8.00 % > 13. Turkey 7.80 % > 14. Bhutan 7.70 % > 15. Mozambique 7.70 % > 16. Iran 7.60 % > 17. San Marino 7.50 % > 18. Chad 7.40 % > 19. Albania 7.30 % > 20. Vietnam 7.00 % > 21. Ireland 6.90 % > 22. Lithuania 6.70 % > 23. Sierra Leone 6.60 % > 24. Moldova 6.50 % > 25. Korea, South 6.30 % > TOP 25 Countries per capita purchasing power > 1. Luxembourg 48,900 $ > 2. United States 36,300 $ > 3. Bermuda 35,200 $ > 4. Cayman Islands 35,000 $ > 5. San Marino 34,600 $ > 6. Norway 33,000 $ > 7. Switzerland 32,000 $ > 8. Iceland 30,200 $ > 9. Canada 29,300 $ > 10. Ireland 29,300 $ > 11. Belgium 29,200 $ > 12. Denmark 28,900 $ > 13. Japan 28,700 $ > 14. Aruba 28,000 $ > 15. Austria 27,900 $ > 16. Hong Kong 27,200 $ > 17. Netherlands 27,200 $ > 18. Monaco 27,000 $ > 19. Australia 26,900 $ > 20. Germany 26,200 $ > 21. France 26,000 $ > 22. Sweden 26,000 $ > 23. Finland 25,800 $ > 24. United Kingdom 25,500 $ > 25. Singapore 25,200 $ > Number of Televisions > 1. China 400,000,000 > 2. United States 219,000,000 > 3. Japan 86,500,000 > 4. India 63,000,000 > 5. Russia 60,500,000 > 6. Germany 51,400,000 > 7. Brazil 36,500,000 > 8. France 34,800,000 > 9. United Kingdom 30,500,000 > 10. Italy 30,300,000 > 11. Mexico 25,600,000 > 12. Canada 21,500,000 > 13. Turkey 20,900,000 > 14. Ukraine 18,050,000 > 15. Spain 16,200,000 > 16. Korea, South 15,900,000 > 17. Thailand 15,190,000 > 18. Indonesia 13,750,000 > 19. Poland 13,050,000 > 20. Malaysia 10,800,000 > 21. Australia 10,150,000 > 22. Taiwan 8,800,000 > 23. Netherlands 8,100,000 > 24. Argentina 7,950,000 > 25. Egypt 7,700 > Military Expenditures as percent of GDP > 1. Korea, North 33.90 % > 2. Mali 15.00 % > 3. Saudi Arabia 13.00 % > 4. Ethiopia 12.60 % > 5. Oman 12.20 % > 6. Eritrea 12.00 % > 7. Qatar 10.00 % > 8. Israel 8.75 % > 9. Jordan 8.60 % > 10 Maldives 8.60 % > 11. Afghanistan 7.70 % > 12. Bahrain 6.70 % > 13. Armenia 6.50 % > 14. Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 6.00 % > 15. Syria 5.90 % > 16. Kuwait 5.50 % > 17. Angola 5.40 % > 18. Burundi 5.30 % > 19. New Caledonia 5.30 % > 20. Yemen 5.20 % > 21. Brunei 5.00 % > 22. Greece 4.91 % > 23. Singapore 4.90 % > 24. Lebanon 4.80 % > 25. Swaziland 4.75 % > 26. Congo, Democratic Republic of the 4.60 % > 27. Pakistan 4.60 % > 28. Bosnia and Herzegovina 4.50 % > 29. Turkey 4.50 % > 30. Djibouti 4.40 % > 31. China 4.30 % > 32. Laos 4.20 % > 33. Sri Lanka 4.20 % > 34. Algeria 4.10 % > 35. Egypt 4.10 % > 36. Cuba 4.00 % > 37. Morocco 4.00 % > 38. Libya 3.90 % > 39. Tajikistan 3.90 % > 40. Cyprus 3.80 % > 41. Mauritania 3.70 % > 42. Botswana 3.50 % > 43. Colombia 3.40 % > 44. Ecuador 3.40 % > 45. Turkmenistan 3.40 % > 46. Guinea 3.30 % > 47. United States 3.20 % > all from http://www.geographyiq.com
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > TOP 25 Countries Real Growth Rate > 1. Turkmenistan 21.10 % > 2. Equatorial Guinea 20.00 % > 3. East Timor 18.00 % > 4. Armenia 12.90 % > 5. Liechtenstein 11.00 % > 6. Azerbaijan 10.60 % > 7. Rwanda 9.70 % > 8. Kazakhstan 9.50 % > 9. Macau 9.50 % > 10. Angola 9.40 % > 11. Tajikistan 9.10 % > 12. China 8.00 % > 13. Turkey 7.80 % > 14. Bhutan 7.70 % > 15. Mozambique 7.70 % > 16. Iran 7.60 % > 17. San Marino 7.50 % > 18. Chad 7.40 % > 19. Albania 7.30 % > 20. Vietnam 7.00 % > 21. Ireland 6.90 % > 22. Lithuania 6.70 % > 23. Sierra Leone 6.60 % > 24. Moldova 6.50 % > 25. Korea, South 6.30 % > TOP 25 Countries per capita purchasing power > 1. Luxembourg 48,900 $ > 2. United States 36,300 $ > 3. Bermuda 35,200 $ > 4. Cayman Islands 35,000 $ > 5. San Marino 34,600 $ > 6. Norway 33,000 $ > 7. Switzerland 32,000 $ > 8. Iceland 30,200 $ > 9. Canada 29,300 $ > 10. Ireland 29,300 $ > 11. Belgium 29,200 $ > 12. Denmark 28,900 $ > 13. Japan 28,700 $ > 14. Aruba 28,000 $ > 15. Austria 27,900 $ > 16. Hong Kong 27,200 $ > 17. Netherlands 27,200 $ > 18. Monaco 27,000 $ > 19. Australia 26,900 $ > 20. Germany 26,200 $ > 21. France 26,000 $ > 22. Sweden 26,000 $ > 23. Finland 25,800 $ > 24. United Kingdom 25,500 $ > 25. Singapore 25,200 $ > Number of Televisions > 1. China 400,000,000 > 2. United States 219,000,000 > 3. Japan 86,500,000 > 4. India 63,000,000 > 5. Russia 60,500,000 > 6. Germany 51,400,000 > 7. Brazil 36,500,000 > 8. France 34,800,000 > 9. United Kingdom 30,500,000 > 10. Italy 30,300,000 > 11. Mexico 25,600,000 > 12. Canada 21,500,000 > 13. Turkey 20,900,000 > 14. Ukraine 18,050,000 > 15. Spain 16,200,000 > 16. Korea, South 15,900,000 > 17. Thailand 15,190,000 > 18. Indonesia 13,750,000 > 19. Poland 13,050,000 > 20. Malaysia 10,800,000 > 21. Australia 10,150,000 > 22. Taiwan 8,800,000 > 23. Netherlands 8,100,000 > 24. Argentina 7,950,000 > 25. Egypt 7,700 > Military Expenditures as percent of GDP > 1. Korea, North 33.90 % > 2. Mali 15.00 % > 3. Saudi Arabia 13.00 % > 4. Ethiopia 12.60 % > 5. Oman 12.20 % > 6. Eritrea 12.00 % > 7. Qatar 10.00 % > 8. Israel 8.75 % > 9. Jordan 8.60 % > 10 Maldives 8.60 % > 11. Afghanistan 7.70 % > 12. Bahrain 6.70 % > 13. Armenia 6.50 % > 14. Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 6.00 % > 15. Syria 5.90 % > 16. Kuwait 5.50 % > 17. Angola 5.40 % > 18. Burundi 5.30 % > 19. New Caledonia 5.30 % > 20. Yemen 5.20 % > 21. Brunei 5.00 % > 22. Greece 4.91 % > 23. Singapore 4.90 % > 24. Lebanon 4.80 % > 25. Swaziland 4.75 % > 26. Congo, Democratic Republic of the 4.60 % > 27. Pakistan 4.60 % > 28. Bosnia and Herzegovina 4.50 % > 29. Turkey 4.50 % > 30. Djibouti 4.40 % > 31. China 4.30 % > 32. Laos 4.20 % > 33. Sri Lanka 4.20 % > 34. Algeria 4.10 % > 35. Egypt 4.10 % > 36. Cuba 4.00 % > 37. Morocco 4.00 % > 38. Libya 3.90 % > 39. Tajikistan 3.90 % > 40. Cyprus 3.80 % > 41. Mauritania 3.70 % > 42. Botswana 3.50 % > 43. Colombia 3.40 % > 44. Ecuador 3.40 % > 45. Turkmenistan 3.40 % > 46. Guinea 3.30 % > 47. United States 3.20 % > all from http://www.geographyiq.com
Bloody Hell…! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! The USA is freakin dead LAST on that list….! ! ! ! ! That, folks, is what statistics is all about..! ! ! In the words of that relief guy… "The USA is *stingy* in it’s military expenditures..!!" And what percent of GDP is the war in IRAQ..?? compared to other conflicts..??? Everyone might notice the "per capita purchasing power" list… notice where the European nations are… ? ? ? OOooooooo…. could that be the "cost of social medicine"… ? ? ? ? Or is it related to the productivity numbers… ? ? or the reduction in the work-week… ? ? gtski
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> Bloody Hell…! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > The USA is freakin dead LAST on that list….! ! ! ! ! > That, folks, is what statistics is all about..! ! ! > In the words of that relief guy… "The USA is *stingy* in it’s > military expenditures..!!"
Last of the top 30, yes.. > And what percent of GDP is the war in IRAQ..?? compared to other > conflicts..??? > Everyone might notice the "per capita purchasing power" list… notice > where the European nations are… ? ? ? OOooooooo…. could that be > the "cost of social medicine"… ? ? ? ? Or is it related to the > productivity numbers… ? ? or the reduction in the work-week… ? ?
It means social security, welfare and soforth are already paid for EVERYONE, not just the ones who can afford private hospital care, which means the money you actually have is worth more my 2 cents /Johan
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> The USA is freakin dead LAST on that list….! ! ! ! ! > That, folks, is what statistics is all about..! ! ! > In the words of that relief guy… "The USA is *stingy* in it’s military > expenditures..!!"
What you didn`t get is that for the most part, those are 3rd world countries. You didn`t see any industrialized countries on the list did you? I doubt that you saw any countries that you would rather live in either. I sure didn`t see any with Social Security, or anything like that. I also wouldn`t want to get sick in many of those places either. The Europeans will ALL be WAY BELOW us on military expenditures since we`ve been defending them for the last 60 years. See ya, John
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that’s why you have to think when presented with numbers. What is 3% of our GDP equivalent to in $$? then compare that with Korea at 33% of GDP. Obviously the US speeds way more than Korea, more than most of the world together. Why? because our 3% of our GDP is still more money than the reat of the world has togehter. So think now about percetages. Seems like some of you don’t understand how percents work. That’s why I posted this, to get you to think. What it really shows is which countries devote the highest percent of their GDP to deense (or offense) . Make some off the cuff generalizations wbout the countries on the top of this list? For one thing if they are spending 33% on defense, then one wonders what they buy with the rest. How is it allocated? Dope made some good points and so did gtski. You can’t compare apple to oranges as many of you frequently do. Statistics only give you a framework to think about what is in front of you as anyone who owns their own business should know, or do none of you use ratios to evaluation your costs? Mr. Sousa asked the best starter question – I don’t know. I’d guess these figures are from annual reports. Look on the web page.
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so third world countries spend a higher percentage of their GDP on military expeditures than first world? Why is that? Why don’t you consider Korea an industrialized country?
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just because it says that United States per capita perchasing power is 36,300 $, doesn’t mean that each one of us has $36,000 to spend. That figure is merely the GDP divided by the population. Since the top 10% of the US population has more that 50% of the $$$, the lower 90% have much less per capital to spend. That helps explain the US poverty figures. GDP/capita is a simple average of output divided by number of people. So it does not say anything about the distribution of national income between rich and poor. What we can say is that GDP/capita provides a rough estimate of average national productivity and national productivity sets bounds on average living standards. Purchasing Power Parity (PPP): . To compare economic statistics across countries, the data must first be converted into a common currency. Unlike conventional exchange rates, PPP rates of exchange allow this conversion to take account of price differences between countries. Recently purchasing power parity exchange rates have been calculated comparing the cost of a common basket of commodities in every country. By eliminating differences in national price levels, the method facilitates comparisons of real values for income, poverty, inequality and expenditure patterns. If the income is unevenly distributed, then increases in the GDP per capita may disproportionately benefit a small group of high income earners and have little impact on reducing poverty. If GDP per capita data is to be used then its distribution must also be taken into account. The Gini Coefficient is used to measure how evenly income is distributed. The closer the Gini coefficient is to 100% the more uneven the income distribution. Zambia 49.8 Netherlands 32.6 UK 36.1 Japan 24.9 USA 40.8 Global income inequality is probably greater than it has ever been in human history. There is some debate about whether it is getting worse or getting better. Currently, the richest 1% of people in the world receives as much as the bottom 57%. The ratio between the average income of the top 5% in the world to the bottom 5% increased from 78 to 1 in 1988 to 114 to 1 in 1993. Today 1.6 billion people or 26 % of the world’s population do not have access to electricity.
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> so third world countries spend a higher percentage of their GDP on > military expeditures than first world? Why is that?
Zoot, WTF..?? To keep thier corrupt leaders in power . . ? ? ? > Why don’t you consider Korea an industrialized country?
Is it . . ? ! ? ! ? ! They can’t even FEED themselves, so maybe they "aren’t" an aggrarian economy.. ? ? ? What exactly DO they "produce".. ? ? Why do they need massive food aid.. ? ? Come on Zoots… gtski
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Perhaps we have a little misunderstanding. There is no country called Korea. North Korea is lead by hard core communist nutjobs. The South Koreans generally use the term "Han’guk" to refer to their country. When I say Korea, I usually mean South Korea. Since I am an American and my father fought in the Korean War, I usually take Korea to mean South Korea. NORTH Korea had a five year famine, SOUTH Korea exports Kia’s to the US. They used to make all Nikes until China opened it’s door to shoe manufacturing. South Korea owns the Samsung plant in Austin, Texas. With Samsung Electric and LG Innotek announcing their collaboration last year, Korea’s high-brightness (HB) LED industry seems to have good prospects. Both HB-LED chip and applications markets are thriving, while the market volume and the number of manufacturing players are increasing. Korea made the first desktop machines with rewritable CD (CD-RW) storage drives. Daewoo Communications Co will released the first 24x speed CD-RW machines in March 15, 1999 IBM Corp, Trigem Computer Inc and Samsung Electronics Co are expected to follow suit later in the year. >From CIA World Factbook:
Since the early 1960s, South Korea has achieved an incredible record of growth and integration into the high-tech modern world economy. Four decades ago GDP per capita was comparable with levels in the poorer countries of Africa and Asia. Today its GDP per capita is 18 times North Korea’s and equal to the lesser economies of the European Union. This success through the late 1980s was achieved by a system of close government/business ties, including directed credit, import restrictions, sponsorship of specific industries, and a strong labor effort. The government promoted the import of raw materials and technology at the expense of consumer goods and encouraged savings and investment over consumption. The Asian financial crisis of 1997-99 exposed longstanding weaknesses in South Korea’s development model, including high debt/equity ratios, massive foreign borrowing, and an undisciplined financial sector. Growth plunged to a negative 6.6% in 1998, then strongly recovered to 10.8% in 1999 and 9.2% in 2000. Growth fell back to 3.3% in 2001 because of the slowing global economy, falling exports, and the perception that much-needed corporate and financial reforms had stalled. Led by consumer spending and exports, growth in 2002 was an impressive 6.2%, despite anemic global growth, followed by moderate 2.8% growth in 2003. In 2003 the National Assembly approved legislation reducing the six-day work week to five days. GDP: purchasing power parity – $857.8 billion (2004 est.) GDP – real growth rate: 3.1% (2004 est.) GDP – per capita: purchasing power parity – $17,800 (2004 est.) GDP – composition by sector: agriculture: 3.6% industry: 36.4% services: 60% (2004 est.) Investment (gross fixed): 29.6% of GDP (2004 est.) Population below poverty line: 4% (2001 est.) Household income or consumption by percentage share: lowest 10%: 2.9% highest 10%: 22.5% (1999 est.) Distribution of family income – Gini index: 31.6 (1993) Inflation rate (consumer prices): 3.6% (2004 est.) Labor force: 22.92 million (2004 est.) Labor force – by occupation: agriculture 8.8%, industry 19.1%, services 72.1% (2001) Unemployment rate: 3.4% (2004 est.) Budget: revenues: $135.5 billion expenditures: $128.7 billion, including capital expenditures of $23.5 billion (2004 est.) Public debt: 13.8% of GDP (2004 est.) Agriculture – products: rice, root crops, barley, vegetables, fruit; cattle, pigs, chickens, milk, eggs; fish Industries: electronics, telecommunications, automobile production, chemicals, shipbuilding, steel Industrial production growth rate: 5.1% (2004 est.) more on Samsung SEOUL, Dec 28 Asia Pulse – Samsung Group, South Korea’s largest conglomerate, said Tuesday it will increase its investment to 21.2 trillion won (US$20.3 billion) next year, up 15.2 per cent from this year, a senior Samsung official said Tuesday. In a press conference in Seoul, Samsung Group vice chairman Lee Hak-soo, said the leading conglomerate aims to boost capital spending and investment in research and development in 2005 to bolster its businesses. The group’s 2005 investment plan comprises 13.9 trillion won for facility investments and 7.3 trillion won for spending in research & development activities. Meanwhile, its sales for this year has been estimated at 135.5 trillion won, up 12.4 per cent from a year ago, with its exports up 38 per cent year-on-year to 527 trillion won. Samsung Austin Semiconductor is one of the most advanced semiconductor plants in the United States. In May 2003, Samsung Electronics announced to the world a three-year, $500 million investment to expand and upgrade our facility. In July 2004, we broke ground on the second expansion of our memory chip fabrication plant. The 34,000 square foot expansion of Samsung Austin Semiconductor’s manufacturing area is part of a succession of investments that will equip the Austin plant for next-generation advanced semiconductor fabrication technology. Samsung’s three-year investment plan of $500 million will upgrade, expand, and increase capacity to produce nano-scale semiconductor memory technology. However, this latest investment isn’t only directed at cutting edge equipment and facilities, it’s also proof of our continuing investment in our most valuable asset – our people. We know it is our people who differentiate us from the global competition. SAS hires individuals who mirror the speed and accuracy necessary to be successful in our industry. Through dynamic and intelligent teams of employees, we move fast, think big, and value every single employee’s contribution. Samsung Austin Semiconductor is proud to call Austin, Texas our home. Our employees participate fully in the community — a community that is noted for greenbelts, rolling hills, and sparkling lakes; a world-class university; top-notch restaurants; and the "Live Music Capital of the World". Samsung Austin Semiconductor adds global significance to the Austin community – and we believe in building a prosperous relationship with our neighbors and employees through initiatives that enrich the lives of all citizens. Yuppers, they are a real backwater, those southern Koreans.
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hey, i’m proud of ya! jeff
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone, > I thought I would post something not so flame enticing and possibly a > little funny. I’ve made it down to 5mg of pred, from 40 mg. The last > couple of months have been quite interesting. My hair has started to > grow back after losing 3/4 last spring. (My husband laughed himself > silly when "hairclub for men" stuff was coming in the mail for me!) > The only problem is that I now have what I call my "Cosmo Kramer" > hair. Most of it is only an inch long, coming in curly, while the rest > is whispy and chin length. The end result is a very funny "do" that > sticks staight up in the morning and looks pretty goofy. I’m still > wearing lots of hats. > My face is less puffy and I look strangers in the eye again. I even > flirted with a rather nice looking man in the bank lineup today. (My > husband also finds this amusing, since he’s the flirt in this house). > The pred withdrawal has me moving like an old woman. People ask me if > I’m injured when I get up from sitting and try to walk. I just tell > them that all the oil has settled in my feet and I need to move around > a bit to get things working again. It’s a pain I can live with to get > off the pred! (My gramma and I had a limping contest… kidding). > I’m starting to crave vegetables again, even raw ones! > 5mg to go… a month if all goes well. By then my hair should look > really crazy! > Health to all… > NinaW
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That’s great, Nina. Mary
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone, > I thought I would post something not so flame enticing and possibly a > little funny. I’ve made it down to 5mg of pred, from 40 mg. The last > couple of months have been quite interesting. My hair has started to > grow back after losing 3/4 last spring. (My husband laughed himself > silly when "hairclub for men" stuff was coming in the mail for me!) > The only problem is that I now have what I call my "Cosmo Kramer" > hair. Most of it is only an inch long, coming in curly, while the rest > is whispy and chin length. The end result is a very funny "do" that > sticks staight up in the morning and looks pretty goofy. I’m still > wearing lots of hats. > My face is less puffy and I look strangers in the eye again. I even > flirted with a rather nice looking man in the bank lineup today. (My > husband also finds this amusing, since he’s the flirt in this house). > The pred withdrawal has me moving like an old woman. People ask me if > I’m injured when I get up from sitting and try to walk. I just tell > them that all the oil has settled in my feet and I need to move around > a bit to get things working again. It’s a pain I can live with to get > off the pred! (My gramma and I had a limping contest… kidding). > I’m starting to crave vegetables again, even raw ones! > 5mg to go… a month if all goes well. By then my hair should look > really crazy! > Health to all… > NinaW
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Way to go!!!! — "I never met a chocolate I didn’t like!" -Lisa-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone, > I thought I would post something not so flame enticing and possibly a > little funny. I’ve made it down to 5mg of pred, from 40 mg. The last > couple of months have been quite interesting. My hair has started to > grow back after losing 3/4 last spring. (My husband laughed himself > silly when "hairclub for men" stuff was coming in the mail for me!) > The only problem is that I now have what I call my "Cosmo Kramer" > hair. Most of it is only an inch long, coming in curly, while the rest > is whispy and chin length. The end result is a very funny "do" that > sticks staight up in the morning and looks pretty goofy. I’m still > wearing lots of hats. > My face is less puffy and I look strangers in the eye again. I even > flirted with a rather nice looking man in the bank lineup today. (My > husband also finds this amusing, since he’s the flirt in this house). > The pred withdrawal has me moving like an old woman. People ask me if > I’m injured when I get up from sitting and try to walk. I just tell > them that all the oil has settled in my feet and I need to move around > a bit to get things working again. It’s a pain I can live with to get > off the pred! (My gramma and I had a limping contest… kidding). > I’m starting to crave vegetables again, even raw ones! > 5mg to go… a month if all goes well. By then my hair should look > really crazy! > Health to all… > NinaW
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Congrats on being almost off pred! It really is a love/hate drug, that’s for sure. Also can relate to the hair thing Christine CD
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Nina! Glad to hear you are getting down off the pred. If it makes you > feel any better I had the hair thing going before my first surgery from > bleeding so much and not absorbing anything that I had complete sections > missing in my head. Kept it long until surgery and then got a "boy cut". I > don’t think my hair was a 1/2 in. long after I got out of surgery and had > them try to even things out for me when I was up to it a few months after > the surgery. It did grow back though like it was before, a little grayer > but healthier since my gi put me on B-complexes daily. Thanks for the > giggle. UM MOM Susan > Hi everyone, > I thought I would post something not so flame enticing and possibly a > little funny. I’ve made it down to 5mg of pred, from 40 mg. The last > couple of months have been quite interesting. My hair has started to > grow back after losing 3/4 last spring. (My husband laughed himself > silly when "hairclub for men" stuff was coming in the mail for me!) > The only problem is that I now have what I call my "Cosmo Kramer" > hair. Most of it is only an inch long, coming in curly, while the rest > is whispy and chin length. The end result is a very funny "do" that > sticks staight up in the morning and looks pretty goofy. I’m still > wearing lots of hats. > My face is less puffy and I look strangers in the eye again. I even > flirted with a rather nice looking man in the bank lineup today. (My > husband also finds this amusing, since he’s the flirt in this house). > The pred withdrawal has me moving like an old woman. People ask me if > I’m injured when I get up from sitting and try to walk. I just tell > them that all the oil has settled in my feet and I need to move around > a bit to get things working again. It’s a pain I can live with to get > off the pred! (My gramma and I had a limping contest… kidding). > I’m starting to crave vegetables again, even raw ones! > 5mg to go… a month if all goes well. By then my hair should look > really crazy! > Health to all… > NinaW
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Hi everyone, I thought I would post something not so flame enticing and possibly a little funny. I’ve made it down to 5mg of pred, from 40 mg. The last couple of months have been quite interesting. My hair has started to grow back after losing 3/4 last spring. (My husband laughed himself silly when "hairclub for men" stuff was coming in the mail for me!) The only problem is that I now have what I call my "Cosmo Kramer" hair. Most of it is only an inch long, coming in curly, while the rest is whispy and chin length. The end result is a very funny "do" that sticks staight up in the morning and looks pretty goofy. I’m still wearing lots of hats. My face is less puffy and I look strangers in the eye again. I even flirted with a rather nice looking man in the bank lineup today. (My husband also finds this amusing, since he’s the flirt in this house). The pred withdrawal has me moving like an old woman. People ask me if I’m injured when I get up from sitting and try to walk. I just tell them that all the oil has settled in my feet and I need to move around a bit to get things working again. It’s a pain I can live with to get off the pred! (My gramma and I had a limping contest… kidding). I’m starting to crave vegetables again, even raw ones! 5mg to go… a month if all goes well. By then my hair should look really crazy! Health to all… NinaW
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> Carnival Cruise Lines to Introduce New Low Carb Menu Items Fleetwide
I wonder if the pumpkin soup fits into this category.
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>Burgundy Snails >in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of >carbs;
The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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> >Burgundy Snails >in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of >carbs; > The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … > Yummy Yummy.
Arlene <–a long time carb counter
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>> >in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of > >carbs; > The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … > Yummy Yummy. > Arlene <–a long time carb counter
Every other diet … i was always hungry and lost nothing … No or low carbs allowed me to stay satisfied on 1500-2000 calories per day … and weight came off like magic … even with saying the heck with it on cruises, birthdays and holidays … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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I, personally, find that the best way to cut is to cruise on one of those RCCL Voyager Class ships. While I normally drop 1 or 2 lbs on a cruise, I can easily double that on a Voyager Class ship. The combination of all that deck/floor space, the best gym at sea, an awesome disco that stays open all night, and lousy food, makes cutting a really easy task on one of these cruises. Howie – bulking up before my short VOS cruise in June. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of >>>carbs; >>The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … >>Yummy Yummy. > Arlene <–a long time carb counter > Every other diet … i was always hungry and lost nothing … No or low carbs > allowed me to stay satisfied on 1500-2000 calories per day … and weight came > off like magic … even with saying the heck with it on cruises, birthdays and > holidays … > Be seeing you > In the Village > Number 6
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Hi Everyone, I received this press release from Carnival and thought it would be of interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are available on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com Carnival Cruise Lines to Introduce New Low Carb Menu Items Fleetwide Specially Prepared Appetizer, Salad and Entree Selections to List Carb Content MIAMI, April 21 In response to the explosive growth in popularity of low carb diets, Carnival Cruise Lines will begin rolling out specially designated low carb dining selections on dinner menus this week with a gradual fleetwide implementation over the next month. "Whether consumers are following Atkins, South Beach, the Zone, or simply subscribing to the low carb philosophy, we want to make it as easy and convenient as possible to enjoy the pleasures of the Carnival dining experience," said Bob Dickinson, Carnival president and CEO. Dinner menus in the ships’ main dining rooms will feature an appetizer, salad and entree with a low carbohydrate count. The number of carbohydrate grams per dish is listed beneath each low carb selection. The designated low carb appetizer and entree dishes on each evening’s menu are designed to complement each other. Primary ingredients focus heavily on vegetables, meat and fish blended with flavorful seasonings and creative preparation. The low carb dishes are included both within the overall list of menu selections for each course as well as in a special box on the opposite page labeled Low Carb Selection, which contains all low carb items from that evening’s menu. The new low carb selections are being introduced on menus aboard the Carnival Victory this week with implementation throughout the balance of the company’s 20-ship fleet expected to occur over the next month. "The low carb phenomenon has been building for years and has recently evolved to such an extraordinary degree that there is tremendous consumer demand for carb-conscious dining options and specific carb count information," said Dickinson. "We are constantly striving to stay abreast of societal trends and provide our guests with choices that meet the needs of their individual lifestyles," he added. Sample low carb appetizer selections include: Vine Ripe Beefsteak Tomatoes and Fresh Buffalo Mozzarella — Marinated with Basil Leaves and Virgin Olive Oil — 3 grams of carbs; Hickory Smoked Alaskan Salmon — Garnished with Purple Onion Rings, Fresh Dill and Baby Capers — 2 grams of carbs; Escargots Bourguignonne — Burgundy Snails in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of carbs; Gravlaks — Thinly Sliced Norwegian Fjord Salmon Cured with Dill and Brandy Presented with a Sour Cream Mustard Sauce — 5 grams of carbs Sample low carb entree selections include: Filet Mignon with Gorgonzola Butter — Aged Center-Cut Beef Tenderloin, Grilled to Perfection with Green Beans — 8 grams of carbs; Pepper-Seared Supreme of Young Long Island Duckling — Marsala Infused Purple Onion Confit, Steamed Bok Choy and Sauteed Spinach — 6 grams of carbs; Tender Roasted Prime Rib of American Beef au Jus, Cooked to Perfection — Broccoli Roses and Grilled Tomato — 4 grams of carbs; Jerked Pork Loin — Slowly Roasted Center Cut Pork Loin, Marinated in Island Spices and Herbs Sauteed Savoy Cabbage with Bacon — 6 grams of carbs. A reduced carbohydrate bread selection will be available each evening on request, as well. Carnival lunch and dinner menus in the main dining rooms also feature Spa Carnival selections, which are lower in calories, sodium, cholesterol and fat. Designated items are accompanied by a listing of the number of calories and grams of fat contained within each selection. Every Carnival "Fun Ship" also features a Spa Carnival health and fitness facility offering a wide array of fitness classes, exercise machines and free weights, along with a luxurious selection of body and facial treatments. Carnival Cruise Lines, a unit of Carnival Corporation & plc (NYSE: CCL; LSE) (NYSE: CUK – News), is the world’s most popular cruise line, with 20 "Fun Ships" operating voyages ranging from three to 16 days in length to The Bahamas, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera, Alaska, Hawaii, the Panama Canal, Canada and New England from homeports throughout North America. The line currently has two 110,000-ton "Fun Ships" — Carnival Valor and Carnival Liberty — with an estimated value of $1 billion scheduled to enter service between now and 2005. For additional information on Carnival’s "Fun Ship" cruises, contact any travel agent. Carnival Cruise Lines is a proud member of the exclusive World’s Leading Cruise Lines. Our exclusive alliance also includes Holland America Line, Princess Cruises, Cunard Line, Costa Cruises, Windstar Cruises and The Yachts of Seabourn. Sharing a passion to please each guest, and a commitment to quality and value, our member lines appeal to a wide range of lifestyles and budgets. Together, we offer exciting and enriching cruise vacations to the world’s most desirable destinations.
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Hi Everyone, I received this press release from Carnival and thought it would be of interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are available on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com Carnival Cruise Lines to Introduce New Low Carb Menu Items Fleetwide Specially Prepared Appetizer, Salad and Entree Selections to List Carb Content MIAMI, April 21 In response to the explosive growth in popularity of low carb diets, Carnival Cruise Lines will begin rolling out specially designated low carb dining selections on dinner menus this week with a gradual fleetwide implementation over the next month. "Whether consumers are following Atkins, South Beach, the Zone, or simply subscribing to the low carb philosophy, we want to make it as easy and convenient as possible to enjoy the pleasures of the Carnival dining experience," said Bob Dickinson, Carnival president and CEO. Dinner menus in the ships’ main dining rooms will feature an appetizer, salad and entree with a low carbohydrate count. The number of carbohydrate grams per dish is listed beneath each low carb selection. The designated low carb appetizer and entree dishes on each evening’s menu are designed to complement each other. Primary ingredients focus heavily on vegetables, meat and fish blended with flavorful seasonings and creative preparation. The low carb dishes are included both within the overall list of menu selections for each course as well as in a special box on the opposite page labeled Low Carb Selection, which contains all low carb items from that evening’s menu. The new low carb selections are being introduced on menus aboard the Carnival Victory this week with implementation throughout the balance of the company’s 20-ship fleet expected to occur over the next month. "The low carb phenomenon has been building for years and has recently evolved to such an extraordinary degree that there is tremendous consumer demand for carb-conscious dining options and specific carb count information," said Dickinson. "We are constantly striving to stay abreast of societal trends and provide our guests with choices that meet the needs of their individual lifestyles," he added. Sample low carb appetizer selections include: Vine Ripe Beefsteak Tomatoes and Fresh Buffalo Mozzarella — Marinated with Basil Leaves and Virgin Olive Oil — 3 grams of carbs; Hickory Smoked Alaskan Salmon — Garnished with Purple Onion Rings, Fresh Dill and Baby Capers — 2 grams of carbs; Escargots Bourguignonne — Burgundy Snails in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of carbs; Gravlaks — Thinly Sliced Norwegian Fjord Salmon Cured with Dill and Brandy Presented with a Sour Cream Mustard Sauce — 5 grams of carbs Sample low carb entree selections include: Filet Mignon with Gorgonzola Butter — Aged Center-Cut Beef Tenderloin, Grilled to Perfection with Green Beans — 8 grams of carbs; Pepper-Seared Supreme of Young Long Island Duckling — Marsala Infused Purple Onion Confit, Steamed Bok Choy and Sauteed Spinach — 6 grams of carbs; Tender Roasted Prime Rib of American Beef au Jus, Cooked to Perfection — Broccoli Roses and Grilled Tomato — 4 grams of carbs; Jerked Pork Loin — Slowly Roasted Center Cut Pork Loin, Marinated in Island Spices and Herbs Sauteed Savoy Cabbage with Bacon — 6 grams of carbs. A reduced carbohydrate bread selection will be available each evening on request, as well. Carnival lunch and dinner menus in the main dining rooms also feature Spa Carnival selections, which are lower in calories, sodium, cholesterol and fat. Designated items are accompanied by a listing of the number of calories and grams of fat contained within each selection. Every Carnival "Fun Ship" also features a Spa Carnival health and fitness facility offering a wide array of fitness classes, exercise machines and free weights, along with a luxurious selection of body and facial treatments. Carnival Cruise Lines, a unit of Carnival Corporation & plc (NYSE: CCL; LSE) (NYSE: CUK – News), is the world’s most popular cruise line, with 20 "Fun Ships" operating voyages ranging from three to 16 days in length to The Bahamas, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera, Alaska, Hawaii, the Panama Canal, Canada and New England from homeports throughout North America. The line currently has two 110,000-ton "Fun Ships" — Carnival Valor and Carnival Liberty — with an estimated value of $1 billion scheduled to enter service between now and 2005. For additional information on Carnival’s "Fun Ship" cruises, contact any travel agent. Carnival Cruise Lines is a proud member of the exclusive World’s Leading Cruise Lines. Our exclusive alliance also includes Holland America Line, Princess Cruises, Cunard Line, Costa Cruises, Windstar Cruises and The Yachts of Seabourn. Sharing a passion to please each guest, and a commitment to quality and value, our member lines appeal to a wide range of lifestyles and budgets. Together, we offer exciting and enriching cruise vacations to the world’s most desirable destinations.
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> Carnival Cruise Lines to Introduce New Low Carb Menu Items Fleetwide
I wonder if the pumpkin soup fits into this category.
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>Burgundy Snails >in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of >carbs;
The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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> >Burgundy Snails >in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of >carbs; > The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … > Yummy Yummy.
Arlene <–a long time carb counter
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>> >in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of > >carbs; > The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … > Yummy Yummy. > Arlene <–a long time carb counter
Every other diet … i was always hungry and lost nothing … No or low carbs allowed me to stay satisfied on 1500-2000 calories per day … and weight came off like magic … even with saying the heck with it on cruises, birthdays and holidays … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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I, personally, find that the best way to cut is to cruise on one of those RCCL Voyager Class ships. While I normally drop 1 or 2 lbs on a cruise, I can easily double that on a Voyager Class ship. The combination of all that deck/floor space, the best gym at sea, an awesome disco that stays open all night, and lousy food, makes cutting a really easy task on one of these cruises. Howie – bulking up before my short VOS cruise in June. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>in Garlic Butter with an Infusion of Chablis and Pernod — 5 grams of >>>carbs; >>The best 5 grams of carbs anyone could hope for … >>Yummy Yummy. > Arlene <–a long time carb counter > Every other diet … i was always hungry and lost nothing … No or low carbs > allowed me to stay satisfied on 1500-2000 calories per day … and weight came > off like magic … even with saying the heck with it on cruises, birthdays and > holidays … > Be seeing you > In the Village > Number 6
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> :I reported him to the Google abuse folks and his privileges were revoked > :by the end of that week. > Well, yeah, Google will deal with abusers, because they have a TOS and > you have to give them a valid email address to sign up and like that. I > thought maybe Google wasn’t accepting messages from anonymous remailers, > which would be foolish of them. Note that they won’t carry encrypted > messages. There’s alt.anonymous.messages, where you can post encrypted > stuff to your friends (and superiors in the Curiae, I guess).
Google has also informed me that they will ban IP numbers and some proxy servers in certain severe cases.
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:I reported him to the Google abuse folks and his privileges were revoked :by the end of that week. Well, yeah, Google will deal with abusers, because they have a TOS and you have to give them a valid email address to sign up and like that. I thought maybe Google wasn’t accepting messages from anonymous remailers, which would be foolish of them. Note that they won’t carry encrypted messages. There’s alt.anonymous.messages, where you can post encrypted stuff to your friends (and superiors in the Curiae, I guess). — No sig yet for OS X
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>>:Too bad they weren’t as effective as the folks at Google abuse. > >>>Don’t be coy, tell us the whole story. > >There was some idiot posting all kinds of useless garbage in one of > >the home theatre newsgroups via Google. He had posted the same > >message 11 times that day, just changing the headers. > >I reported him to the Google abuse folks and his privileges were > >revoked by the end of that week. > >He has since re-appeared using another e-mail address and posting > >via Google. I spotted his new address spouting the same crap. > >I replied to his message, listing all of the aliases he posted > >under, and he hasn’t been back since. > >I wish it was that easy with others. > Well, that’s the problem with you busybody netkops, you’re very > capricious > about > who you go after. > Where are you when your assbuddy Mezei is trolling groups under these > aliases: > It’s more likely you are posting under those aliases, as you are > totally obsessed with JF.
Precisely – you’re not the only one to come to this conclusion, either. To the anonymous fecal-wipe who posts the JF Mezei vendetta: Have you never thought that your credibility was worthless the very second the public witnesses you posting Mr Mezei’s home address and contact information while you do so from an anonymous remailer ? What kind of gutless, ball-less wonder does it take to insult someone while anonymous ? You don’t have the balls to make all of the allegations against Mezei under your real name and you certainly do not posess the courage to post your own home address, so why are you under the delusion that there is a single, verifiable person alive who has read your vendetta against Mezei and believes it ? — Marc Bissonnette CGI / Database / Web Management Tools: http://www.internalysis.com Something To Sell? Looking To Buy? http://www.whitewaterclassifieds.ca Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>:Too bad they weren’t as effective as the folks at Google abuse. >>>Don’t be coy, tell us the whole story. >There was some idiot posting all kinds of useless garbage in one of the >home theatre newsgroups via Google. He had posted the same message 11 >times that day, just changing the headers. >I reported him to the Google abuse folks and his privileges were revoked >by the end of that week. >He has since re-appeared using another e-mail address and posting via >Google. I spotted his new address spouting the same crap. >I replied to his message, listing all of the aliases he posted under, >and he hasn’t been back since. >I wish it was that easy with others. > Well, that’s the problem with you busybody netkops, you’re very capricious about > who you go after. > Where are you when your assbuddy Mezei is trolling groups under these aliases:
It’s more likely you are posting under those aliases, as you are totally obsessed with JF.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS >> About >> JF MEZEI >> (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) >> 1. Who is JF Mezei? >> Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit >> rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the >> longest running trolls in usenet history. >I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF >Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA.
A message to abuse at dizum.com should take care of him.
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>I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF >Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA. > A message to abuse at dizum.com should take care of him.
Dizum never has done anything with any abuse complaints.
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>>> >I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF >> >Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA. >> A message to abuse at dizum.com should take care of him. >Dizum never has done anything with any abuse complaints.
Yeah, I see that Too bad they weren’t as effective as the folks at Google abuse.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>:Too bad they weren’t as effective as the folks at Google abuse. >>Don’t be coy, tell us the whole story. >There was some idiot posting all kinds of useless garbage in one of the >home theatre newsgroups via Google. He had posted the same message 11 >times that day, just changing the headers. >I reported him to the Google abuse folks and his privileges were revoked >by the end of that week. >He has since re-appeared using another e-mail address and posting via >Google. I spotted his new address spouting the same crap. >I replied to his message, listing all of the aliases he posted under, >and he hasn’t been back since. >I wish it was that easy with others.
Well, that’s the problem with you busybody netkops, you’re very capricious about who you go after. Where are you when your assbuddy Mezei is trolling groups under these aliases:
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> FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS > About > JF MEZEI > (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) > 1. Who is JF Mezei? > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the > longest running trolls in usenet history.
I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA.
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Doesn’t even come close to how many hits google groups bring up on our beloved "Rod Speed" | > FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | > About | > JF MEZEI | > | > (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) | > | > 1. Who is JF Mezei? | > | > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit | > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the | > longest running trolls in usenet history. | > | I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF | Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA. | | |
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> Doesn’t even come close to how many hits google groups bring up on our > beloved "Rod Speed"
I second that. He is a real pain, he posts a lot in the aus.* newsgroups ( as well ). Cheers, Csaba CSABA I. HARANGOZO |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| csabah(at)zipworld(dot)com(dot)au EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: Sattinger’s Law : It works better if you plug it in.
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS About JF MEZEI (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) 1. Who is JF Mezei? Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the longest running trolls in usenet history. ***WARNING: JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER. HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.*** If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the control.cancel newsgroup. If you find that he has cancelled your messages, 2. How long has he been trolling? For well over a decade. 3. Where does he live? Montreal, Quebec, Canada Jean-Francois Mezei 86 Harwood Gate Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3 (514) 695-8259 4. What makes him such a malicious troll? His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless. Once he invades your newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out, every day of the year, for years and years on end. He does not listen to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can’t hear you, I can’t hear anything you say!" 5. What does he troll about? His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex. He hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing fest. If he can’t do that then he’ll just start making lewd posts. 6. What does he hate about the USA? Everything! He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly. The USA is a happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can’t stand it. Some of JF’s favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc. 7. What about his sexual trolling? Ah, that is JF at his trolling best. No sexual topic is too bizarre. Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women’s genitalia, sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) … the list is endless. 8. Circumcision??? Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years. He still likes to insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then. Apparently, JF was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims). As soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy. His main argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel. 9. What’s his interest in child sexuality? That sounds kind of freaky. Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky. Among the subjects dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy’s foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls’ hymens. He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate early on so that they don’t grow up "sexually repressed like Americans". He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their little boys’ penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems. Utopia for JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys’ penises. 10. Ewww! This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are you sure about all this stuff? Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself. There’s over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there. 11. How can I find all that out, doesn’t he change aliases all the time like all trolls do? Of course! See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling aliases. 12. So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn’t he work? Ha ha ha! JF hasn’t worked a day in his life! He’s an adult baby, a grown man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups all night. In his free time when he isn’t trolling he likes to ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike. 13. That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something? Bingo! JF is a boy in a grown man’s body. Psychologically he never got past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow. 14. Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is that true? Yes! JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room. He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins. He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised. He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis. 15. Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts! He should be locked up in an insane asylum! Yep, JF is certifiably insane. He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat world where others are out to get him. The key to understanding JF is that he sees himself as a VICTIM. To JF the world is out to get him, especially the USA. Victimhood is what JF is all about. What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was "killed", in his words. He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a good freak. Then he turned his attention to aviation. Major events that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil). So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings. He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation. He has never recovered from this. 16. Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him! His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously for decades. JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore. It’s really pathetic! 17. Where else does he hang out? can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer groups. For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he’s so famous for. But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds. 18. It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn’t troll. Pretty much. For a megatroll like JF it’s impossible not to troll, so he slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they won’t find out what a major netkook he is. 19. Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is! Exactly. Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms. And while you’re at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. 20. What else can I do? Is there an abuse address? Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to: For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely. Post it to newsgroups, email it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc. *** APPENDIX *** List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. This is only a partial list, he has so many it’s impossible to compile a full list. … read more »
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You’re an idiot. How does that constitute domain theft?? Does that mean they are all stealing that domain?? Flawed logic as is your mind… Leave your problems with Mezei in the forum where you developed those problems!! We are sick of seing this GARBAGE. When will it stop!!! Deep
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just a few of Mezei’s known trolling aliases. > domain, therefore it constitutes domain theft. More on that in a separate > article. > Jean-Francois Mezei > 86 Harwood Gate > Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3 > (514) 695-8259
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Just a few of Mezei’s known trolling aliases. domain, therefore it constitutes domain theft. More on that in a separate article. Jean-Francois Mezei 86 Harwood Gate Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3 (514) 695-8259
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Good summary! Debs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >In short, a food to which you are intolerant can make you burp, fart, or >dash to the toilet. A food to which you are allergic can make you die. >Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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I think I would rather burp and fart. That way I only smell dead. Mike >In short, a food to which you are intolerant can make you burp, fart, or >dash to the toilet. A food to which you are allergic can make you die. >Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Drop PANTS before emailing. An education teaches you that you don’t know everything. Intelligence means you know where to find the information you are lacking. mgbio
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In short, a food to which you are intolerant can make you burp, fart, or dash to the toilet. A food to which you are allergic can make you die. Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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Excellant article. I don’t have any scientific info to back this up but I suspect that food allergies and intolerances may play a role in some forms of IBD. It certainly has been proven that they do actually cause some "IBD like" diseases such as celiac sprue, an allergy to wheat gluten. I also found this to be of interest: > Salicylates are a group of plant chemicals found naturally in many fruits, > vegetables, nuts, coffee, juices, beer, and wine. Aspirin also is a compound > of the salicylate family. Foods containing salicylates may trigger symptoms > in people who are sensitive to aspirin. Of course, any food consumed in > excessive quantities can cause digestive symptoms.
Interesting that the foods listed are often cited by people here as being problematic. And the last line is also particularly important. Food consumed is excessive quantities does cause problems. This is a behavioral or dietary habit. This is one of the things I mean when I talk about dietary or lifestyle habits. I think there are a lot of problems surrounding how people eat, not just what they eat. Thanks for the article. Jeff
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://www.medscape.com/pages/editorial/public/index/faq > Problem Foods: Is It an Allergy or Intolerance? > What is a food allergy? > A food allergy is an immune system response. It occurs when the body > mistakes an ingredient in food — usually a protein — as harmful and > creates a defense system (antibodies) to fight it. Allergy symptoms develop > when the antibodies are battling the "invading" food. The most common food > allergies in adults are shellfish, peanuts, fish, and eggs. The most common > food allergies in children are milk, soy products, peanuts, and shellfish. > What is food intolerance? > Food intolerance is a digestive system response rather than an immune system > response. It occurs when something in food irritates a person’s digestive > system or when a person is unable to properly digest, or breakdown, the > food. Intolerance to lactose, which is found in milk and other dairy > products, is the most common food intolerance. > What are the symptoms of food allergy? > Symptoms of a food allergy can range from mild to severe, and the amount of > food necessary to trigger a reaction varies from person to person. Symptoms > of food allergy may include: > Rash or hives > Nausea > Stomach pain > Diarrhea > Itchy skin > Shortness of breath > Chest pain > Swelling of the airways to the lungs > Anaphylaxis > What are the symptoms of food intolerance? > Symptoms of food intolerance include: > Nausea > Stomach pain > Gas, cramps, or bloating > Vomiting > Heartburn > Diarrhea > Headaches > Irritability or nervousness > How common are food allergies and intolerances? > Food allergies affect about 1% of adults and 7% of children, although some > children outgrow their allergies. Food intolerances are much more common. In > fact, nearly everyone at one time has had an unpleasant reaction to > something they ate. Some people have specific food intolerances. Lactose > intolerance, the most common food intolerance, affects about 10% of > Americans. > What causes food allergies and intolerances? > Food allergies arise from sensitivity to chemical compounds (proteins) in > food. Food allergies develop after you are exposed to a food protein that > your body thinks is harmful. The first time you eat the food containing the > protein, your immune system responds by creating specific disease-fighting > antibodies (called immunoglobulin E or IgE). When you eat the food again, it > triggers the release of IgE antibodies and other chemicals, including > histamine, in an effort to expel the protein "invader" from your body. > Histamine is a powerful chemical that can affect the respiratory system, > gastrointestinal tract, skin or cardiovascular system. > As a result of this response, allergy symptoms occur. The allergy symptoms > you have depend on where in the body the histamine is released. If it is > released in the ears, nose, and throat, you may have an itchy nose and > mouth, or trouble breathing or swallowing. If histamine is released in the > skin, you may develop hives or a rash. If histamine is released in the > gastrointestinal tract, you likely will develop stomach pains, cramps, or > diarrhea. Many people experience a combination of symptoms as the food is > eaten and digested. > Food allergies often run in families, suggesting that the condition can be > inherited. > There are many factors that may contribute to food intolerance. In some > cases, as with lactose intolerance, the person lacks the chemicals, called > enzymes, necessary to properly digest certain proteins found in food. Also > common are intolerances to some chemical ingredients added to food to > provide color, enhance taste, and protect against the growth of bacteria. > These ingredients include various dyes and monosodium glutamate (MSG), a > flavor enhancer. > Substances called sulfites, which may occur naturally, as in red wines, or > may be added to prevent the growth of mold, also are a source of intolerance > for some people. The FDA has banned the use of spray-on sulfates to preserve > fruits and vegetables, but sulfates are still found naturally in some foods. > Salicylates are a group of plant chemicals found naturally in many fruits, > vegetables, nuts, coffee, juices, beer, and wine. Aspirin also is a compound > of the salicylate family. Foods containing salicylates may trigger symptoms > in people who are sensitive to aspirin. Of course, any food consumed in > excessive quantities can cause digestive symptoms. > How can you tell the difference between a food allergy and intolerance? > Food allergies can be triggered by even a small amount of the food and occur > every time the food is consumed. People with food allergies are generally > advised to avoid the offending foods completely. On the other hand, food > intolerances often are dose related; people with food intolerance may not > have symptoms unless they eat a large portion of the food or eat the food > frequently. For example, a person with lactose intolerance may be able to > drink milk in coffee or a single glass of milk, but becomes sick if he or > she drinks several glasses of milk. Food allergies and intolerances also are > different from food poisoning, which generally results from spoiled or > tainted food and affects more than one person eating the food. Your > healthcare provider can help determine if you have an allergy or > intolerance, and establish a plan to help control your symptoms. > How are food intolerances diagnosed? > Most food intolerances are found through trial and error to determine which > food or foods cause symptoms. You may be asked to keep a food diary to > record what you eat and when you get symptoms, and then look for common > factors. > Another way to identify problem foods is to go on an elimination diet. This > involves completely eliminating any suspect foods from your diet until you > are symptom-free. You then begin to reintroduce the foods, one at a time. > This can help you pinpoint which foods cause symptoms. Seek the advice of > your healthcare provider or a registered dietitian before beginning an > elimination diet to be sure your diet provides adequate nutrition. > How are food intolerances treated? > Treatment is based on avoiding or reducing your intake of problem foods and > treating symptoms when they arise. > Can food intolerances be prevented? > Taking a few simple steps can help you prevent the symptoms associated with > food intolerance. > Learn which foods in which amounts cause you to have symptoms, and limit > your intake to amounts you can handle. > When you dine out, ask your server about how your meal will be prepared. > Some meals may contain foods you cannot tolerate, and that may not be > evident from the description on the menu. > Learn to read food labels and check the ingredients for problem foods. Don’t > forget to check condiments and seasonings. They may contain MSG or another > additive that can lead to symptoms. > For a complete guide to allergies for your patient visit WebMD Health > Reviewed by the doctors at The Cleveland Clinic Department of Allergy and > Immunology and the Department of Pulmonary and Critical Medicine. > Edited by Charlotte E. Grayson, MD, Feb. 2003, WebMD. > Copyright
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Agreed, I think many airlines are holding back until they see it in action. If it turns out to be a success then some airlines who are wavering at the moment will place orders along with others who maybe weren’t so interested in buying but feel forced to so as not to be left by the wayside. Even though I’m a European and want to see Airbus do well I certainly don’t want Boeing to go down the hole, I just wish they offered one of the many B747 mods to the airlines, time will tell I suppose. Colin. — Watashi no tsuma wa nihon-jin desu! Watashi no tsuma wa kawaii desu!
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You’ll find more here: http://www.airbus.com/dynamic/media/press_releases.asp#1420 It’s said that the book now stands at 129 for the beast. If 250 is break even, then a good oart of the roald has been walked! Nik.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Heard on BBC that Malaysian government has negotiated the purchase of 6 A380s > to be used by its airline. > Haven’t found more details on this.
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> You’ll find more here: > http://www.airbus.com/dynamic/media/press_releases.asp#1420 > It’s said that the book now stands at 129 for the beast. If 250 is break > even, then a good oart of the roald has been walked!
Yeah, their just over half way to zero profit. If they can double their sales, then they will have gotten all the way to zero profit. That presumes of course that they didn’t get the ball rolling with some sale prices that push that "250" up a bit, say to oh…. 500. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Nik. > Heard on BBC that Malaysian government has negotiated the purchase of 6 > A380s > to be used by its airline. > Haven’t found more details on this.
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> You’ll find more here: > http://www.airbus.com/dynamic/media/press_releases.asp#1420 > It’s said that the book now stands at 129 for the beast. If 250 is break > even, then a good oart of the roald has been walked! > Yeah, their just over half way to zero profit. If they can double > their sales, then they will have gotten all the way to zero profit. > That presumes of course that they didn’t get the ball rolling with > some sale prices that push that "250" up a bit, say to oh…. 500.
Doesn’t seem bad to me at this stage.. Remember that the 7E7 depends heavily on airlines such as Lufthansa and BA to ever take off. Nik.
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Heard on BBC that Malaysian government has negotiated the purchase of 6 A380s to be used by its airline. Haven’t found more details on this.
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> _5_ days? Waste of time to try to go more than _2_ PLACES because of the > travel time. By the time you get in and set up, you’ve lost day 1.
Why? You can fly into LHR early in the AM What "set up" is needed?
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More off-topic trolling and domain theft from JF Mezei: Organization: nla0: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.11.160.74 You could take Eurostar from London to Brussels, The train passes through France. Then, from there, catch another train to Amsterdam, adding Netherlands, then, another train to Germany, Then to Switzerland, then to Italy. Or, if you want a real experience, you can take the Orient Express from london to Venice (or Rome). Travels through France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy. However, judging from your comments about Europe, you are probably not suited to travel on the Orient Express. (It still runs to Istanbul a few times a year) Or you could simply take train or plane to Nice, then a train to Monte-Carlo, then to Italy, then to Switzerland and then back to France. As far as the countries you dislike, you will eventually come to thank them and appreciate that they were the voice of reason and apologize for having insulted them once you realise they were the sole opposition because your own internal parties were asleep at the switch and did not react to your lying government. nobody.com is a registered domain. Report Mezei’s theft and abuse of this Domain Name: NOBODY.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: 314 Queen Street South Suite 158 Bolton, Ontario L7E 4Z9 CA 905-880-0289 fax: 905-880-3061 Record expires on 24-Aug-2004. Record created on 25-Aug-1995. Also report him to: Jean-Francois Mezei 86 Harwood Gate Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3 (514) 695-8259 A DECADE OF USENET TROLLING
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Canuck… they will RRREALLY be inspired by Euro sticker shock, EH!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> > My husband won two plane tickets to London and we plan to use them to >> spend a >> > week in Europe. We want to see as many countries as we possibly can in 5 >> days. >> This is a troll right? >> On the slim chance it isn’t, don’t come here. >not only an obvious troll — but I’m guessing, not even an American troll > Based on what I can deduce from the headers, apparently Canadian. > — > hambu n hambu hodo
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Wegmann >My husband won two plane tickets to London and
we plan to use them to spend a >week in Europe. We want to see as many
countries as we possibly can in 5 days. >Friends have told us the countries are pretty
small and you can do them quickly. (SNIP) > At the moment, France seems to be popular for
patriotic Americans. > Perhaps you should go to Paris and see how many people you can piss > off.
We just got back from Europe. Seeing the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany only took about thirty seconds. Go to "Dreipuntland" (as I recall) near Aachen, where the three countries meet at a common corner. There’s a flagpole there that you can walk around and recite, "Netherlands, Germany, Belgium," and that’s all the time it takes to see those three countries. A real time-saver. As for anti-Americanism in Europe at the moment, we got a few questions from genuinely puzzled people about our idiot President, but not with any ill will toward us personally. The most telling was a man at a market in Leiden, who asked, "Why do Americans hate Muslims?" The most pointed was a Dutchman who said, "Bush thinks he is very smart, but he is very, very stupid." From these and other similar conversations, we concluded that accurate observation and clear thinking are alive and well in Northern Europe. BTW, although we are clearly American (white socks), we were treated with total courtesy and politeness during our week in France. Tom Alto, GA, USA
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My husband won two plane tickets to London and we plan to use them to spend a > week in Europe. We want to see as many countries as we possibly can in 5 days. > Friends have told us the countries are pretty small and you can do them quickly. > So we plan to take a train from London to like Athens or the farthest point we > can and just see each country as we go by. I don’t care to see anything in > particular, to tell you the truth I prefer to vacation in Orlando or Anaheim, > and after the way Europeans turned against us and our great President earlier > this year I would just as soon not spend any money there and help out their > economies with our dollars, but my husband really wants to use the free tickets > and if we take a long train ride across a lot of countries and take pictures > along the way then at least we can tell our friends back home we’ve been there > done that. Does any have any idea what’s the most countries we can see in 5 > days and which would be the best trains to take to pack in the most countries? > Thanks, > Barbara W. >Barbara, >For only five days just stay in London. Bush’s friends, if any, are >right there. >John Bermont
By Jove, that’s spiffing advice old boy! Our Great Leader and that Bush fellah from the Colonies certainly showed the fuzzy-wuzzies a thing or two, what? Good idea to enter a hostelry., let Mine Host know where you’re from and it’ll be free beer and jellied eels all night. Pick up a copy of the "Daily Mqail" every day just to know what those dastardly European cads are up to and take it easy. Fforbes-Frobisher RN (Ret’d)
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_5_ days? Waste of time to try to go more than _2_ PLACES because of the travel time. By the time you get in and set up, you’ve lost day 1. assuming you actually SEE something the first day, you move to another place (by AIR or you will spend the better part of a day on the train) and repeat the process. BTW – We did SOUTHERN Spain for 11 days and got to _5_ CITIES (including a _day_ at the Prado in Madrid) and aside from being able to say "we were there" merely scratched the surface. (oh, and that included a day trip to Tangiers from Terifa, too – the best part was being able to say we were on 2 continents during the trip) BTW – IF you’re ‘Murican, you will be astounded by Euro "sticker shock" at the 22% premium. AIN’T CHEAP, and Britain is still more expensive
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My husband won two plane tickets to London and we plan to use them to spend a > week in Europe. We want to see as many countries as we possibly can in 5 days. > Friends have told us the countries are pretty small and you can do them quickly. > So we plan to take a train from London to like Athens or the farthest point we > can and just see each country as we go by. I don’t care to see anything in > particular, to tell you the truth I prefer to vacation in Orlando or Anaheim, > and after the way Europeans turned against us and our great President earlier > this year I would just as soon not spend any money there and help out their > economies with our dollars, but my husband really wants to use the free tickets > and if we take a long train ride across a lot of countries and take pictures > along the way then at least we can tell our friends back home we’ve been there > done that. Does any have any idea what’s the most countries we can see in 5 > days and which would be the best trains to take to pack in the most countries? > Thanks, > Barbara W.
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You could take Eurostar from London to Brussels, The train passes through France. Then, from there, catch another train to Amsterdam, adding Netherlands, then, another train to Germany, Then to Switzerland, then to Italy. Or, if you want a real experience, you can take the Orient Express from london to Venice (or Rome). Travels through France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy. However, judging from your comments about Europe, you are probably not suited to travel on the Orient Express. (It still runs to Istanbul a few times a year) Or you could simply take train or plane to Nice, then a train to Monte-Carlo, then to Italy, then to Switzerland and then back to France. As far as the countries you dislike, you will eventually come to thank them and appreciate that they were the voice of reason and apologize for having insulted them once you realise they were the sole opposition because your own internal parties were asleep at the switch and did not react to your lying government.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >My husband won two plane tickets to London and we plan to use them to spend a >week in Europe. We want to see as many countries as we possibly can in 5 days. >Friends have told us the countries are pretty small and you can do them quickly. >So we plan to take a train from London to like Athens or the farthest point we >can and just see each country as we go by. I don’t care to see anything in >particular, to tell you the truth I prefer to vacation in Orlando or Anaheim, >and after the way Europeans turned against us and our great President earlier >this year I would just as soon not spend any money there and help out their >economies with our dollars, but my husband really wants to use the free tickets >and if we take a long train ride across a lot of countries and take pictures >along the way then at least we can tell our friends back home we’ve been there >done that. Does any have any idea what’s the most countries we can see in 5 >days and which would be the best trains to take to pack in the most countries? >Thanks, >Barbara W.
At the moment, France seems to be popular for patriotic Americans. Perhaps you should go to Paris and see how many people you can piss off.
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GENIUS and what an embarassing thread
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>My husband won two plane tickets to London and we plan to use them to spend a >week in Europe. We want to see as many countries as we possibly can in 5 days. >Friends have told us the countries are pretty small and you can do them quickly. >So we plan to take a train from London to like Athens or the farthest point we >can and just see each country as we go by. I don’t care to see anything in >particular, to tell you the truth I prefer to vacation in Orlando or Anaheim, >and after the way Europeans turned against us and our great President earlier >this year I would just as soon not spend any money there and help out their >economies with our dollars, but my husband really wants to use the free tickets >and if we take a long train ride across a lot of countries and take pictures >along the way then at least we can tell our friends back home we’ve been there >done that. Does any have any idea what’s the most countries we can see in 5 >days and which would be the best trains to take to pack in the most countries?
Take train to Bagdad, stay there and start a troll school. Adi
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